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Apple’s aesthetic skills went off the rails
Burt Hazard replied 12 years, 8 months ago 17 Members · 67 Replies
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Jim Hines
September 18, 2013 at 12:28 pmthen you have to be excited about the new design. : )
Rock on!
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Justin Crowell
September 18, 2013 at 2:44 pm[Marcus Moore] “After 2 OS updates of integrating iOS features into OSX”
FWIW, I absolutely HATE the additions that came with this. The whole new window pop-up effect (you guys know what I’m referring to?), which I disable in terminal immediately, drives me insane. Looks like they might have fixed the full-screen video “bug,” in Mavericks, but I can’t figure out why it was there in the first place. It’s also one of those things that makes me nervous about FCPX (please, no flames, I’m actually excited about finally learning the software for real)–too much UI, not pared down enough. I really despise UI animations. I want stuff to be able to look as bare bones as possible. Makes me less distracted, and makes my work go faster.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 18, 2013 at 6:09 pmOff the rails?
I kinda like it, but I am a schmuck.
The cartoonish iWork apps look out of place and puffy.
You are right about Gmail, though, especially on the iOS side. If you want to see how a layered touch app should work, they have a really good sense of what needs to happen.
Passing off design to marketing doesn’t even make any sense. It’s like passing engineering off to upholstery.
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Chris Harlan
September 18, 2013 at 6:40 pmI just think they look threadbare. To me, they’re bland AND uninspired. Doubtless, I’ll get used to them. Maybe its because I’m a parent, and have seen–a decade ago–so many educational widgets that look like this that I’m finding it a little toxic. It doesn’t feel at all new to me; it feels like 2004 kid-edtion design has taken over.
I prefer the iWork icons, but that’s life in the big city.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 18, 2013 at 7:15 pm[Chris Harlan] “I prefer the iWork icons, but that’s life in the big city.”
So you are a fan of the skeumorph?
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Marcus Moore
September 18, 2013 at 7:21 pmDesign goes thru cycles. It’s clear we’ve moved into a minimalistic phase where software design is concerned.
While I don’t think that the general design of Apple’s Pro apps (FCP, Motion, Logic) are terribly skeuomorphic (except in some obvious places in Logic), it will be interesting to see if this minimalistic aesthetic filters down. While I’d like to see some some of the “de-chroming” found in element of LogicX, I don’t think we’ll see anything too radical this year. I think the dev team has much bigger fish to fry than UI.
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Oliver Peters
September 18, 2013 at 7:26 pmJust to be sure we are all talking about the same thing. Look at these two grabs of Mail versus Pages on iCloud. Mail is barely readable. Note the ultra-thin text and outline icons. It violates everything about good design for legibility. It’s not just that it’s not skeumorphic, but rather that it’s the complete antithesis.
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Gustavo Bermudas
September 18, 2013 at 7:55 pmI agree, it’s terrible. Is this Johnny Ive’s unapologetic design?
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Oliver Peters
September 18, 2013 at 8:02 pmIt’s as if this was approached as print design. It’s not. It’s video design and all the same rules apply.
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Jeremy Garchow
September 18, 2013 at 8:03 pm[Oliver Peters] ” Note the ultra-thin text and outline icons. It violates everything about good design for legibility. “
Funny. As I look at your screengrabs in the browser, I can read and see Mail much easier than Pages
[Oliver Peters] “It’s not just that it’s not skeumorphic, but rather that it’s the complete antithesis.”
I find it so much more clear.
Pages is a nightmare. floating windows should be damned to floating hell.
Gmail, (again) does windows right, in that you can minimize a newly composed email instead of having to try and tab through windows or tabs.
I’m a fan of the flatter design, though, always have been.
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