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Apple Posts New Videos Comparing FCPX to Adobe & Avid
Leo Hans replied 14 years, 9 months ago 33 Members · 71 Replies
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Leo Hans
July 23, 2011 at 11:15 pmFlavio,
I am not stressed. I wonder why everybody is about FCPX.Never said Avid is dead. I said that premiere is a copy of FCP (again, IMHO).
“No one knows about the future, but really… Why does it have to be in Apple´s hands?.”
It not has to be being Apple, It has to be with Apple being the only one trying to innovate instead of adding little things.
I dobut adding wings to a car is the best way to invent an airplane.
Leo Hans
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Flavio G. garcía
July 23, 2011 at 11:30 pmI was giving examples of “known bold statements” repeated from time to time.
It not has to be being Apple, It has to be with Apple being the only one trying to innovate instead of adding little things.
That is your opinion, but think about this:
Who was the first to offer native h.264 editing?.
Adobe.
Who was second?.
Avid.
Meaning… In some areas, FCP X is not really innovating, but catching up with others.
Metadata?.
Strongly implemented in Adobe applications, and inside Premiere Pro (XMP certified), where you can actually organize things in smart collections using Adobe Bridge, integrated with Premiere.
Not saying Apple doesn´t innovate, just saying the world is bigger and everything is relative.
People react to your opinions because they sound a little “my way, or the highway”.
Problem is when you need a car, and a company offers you a plane that only flights where the company wants.
Peace.
Flavio G. Garc
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Rob Tinworth
July 23, 2011 at 11:44 pm“I dobut adding wings to a car is the best way to invent an airplane.”
Are you kidding?! If you add wings to your car you know what you get? A flying car!
How freakin awesome would that be?
Just like if you’d added a bunch of great features to FCP7 instead of trying to reinvent the car.
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Eric Susch
July 24, 2011 at 4:31 amApple may be a successful company overall but the people in the FCP division still need to defend their decisions within the company. They botched this release big time and made Apple look bad to the general public, even on late night TV.
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Rafael Amador
July 24, 2011 at 12:11 pm[Leo Hans] “I wonder why It’s ok to spit to FCPX but not to defend it.
Premiere doesn’t got this popular but for the FCPX controversy. It’s not Premiere laurels. It’s the most similar NLE to FPC7 and thus is the easy way to go.
IMHO, Premiere it’s not the future, but a reincarnation of the past.
Time will tell who is wrong about that.”
Leo,
I don’t use PP. I’ve never considered going there till FCPX’s release.
I edit with FC since 2.002 and I was hopping Apple would give me the tools to keep working another 10 years.I’m not spitting on FCPX.
You haven’t read any comment against FCPX on my posts..
FCPX is an option that I may consider in the future. At the moment no point to waist time with a NLE that doesn’t lets me do my work.Anyway, lets don’t dramatize those discussions. They have been always like that. There is still a “Platforms War Forum” in the COW. The NLE’s war has been going for years, and now the war is inside Apple users.
Mac/apple users we have been often accused of our almost religious faith in our favorite brand.
I’ve to recognize my faith since 1.993 that I bough my first Mac.
In the pass was very easy to dismiss critics because mot came from outside.
Now the critics are from inside. From people nobody can say “they are against Apple”.
From people that after years asking Apple for solutions they feel ripped-off with a 300$$ inoperative enigma.
this not just Is about shifting NLEs but about planning my professional future and my investments, and i’m talking about many thousands of $$$ in hardware and additional pro software.
Is not about liking or not FCPX, than about trusting Apple.
My point is very simple: Few years ago FCS users were vital for Apple. Now we are behind any iPod Shuffle user, and we won’t ever be protagonists again.rafael
PS: I’ve to recognize i feel very pissed by the chorus of experts, trainers and gurus (that nobody knows where they come from) trying to sell this stuff. The technical level shown in the “FCPX Technique Forum” is to cry. I would like to see many FCPX advocators editing with the application.
The best ever marketing operation in the shadows. FCPX is giving money and that’s what counts. -
J Hussar
July 24, 2011 at 1:29 pmJust on a deadline 2 nights ago. Having multiple sequences open in the FCP7 project saved our collective butts!
We had to have a separate sequence open just for figuring out some shot orders – for experiments. We didn’t want to mess around in the main sequence until we sorted out the problems, we didn’t want any risk any disordering of the main sequence.
When we finished the test sequence we safely copied it back into the main sequence.
What were we supposed to do, open another new project? Are you kidding me?
I don’t have any problem with new features Apple added – it’s what they’ve taken away that is the problem – and they don’t know the problem because they don’t have to edit in 11th hour, soul crushing deadline situations.
They think editing is a tra-la-la, time is no object game – not the horrific deadline, balancing on a cliff-face experience that it can be. That’s where they screwed the pooch! They just DON’T get editing in a real world situation anymore!
Not since Randy “I shoot vacation videos” Ubillos returned.
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John Godwin
July 24, 2011 at 5:58 pmI just had to do something similar, using FCPX.It’s very easy to switch between “projects” (think “sequences”) in FCPX and just cut and paste as needed. Although you can accomplish the same things with secondary storylines and auditions.
There are several valid workflow issues with FCPX. This one is minor, with at least 3 ways to accomplish the goal and they are at least equal to having multiple sequences open.
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Andrew Rendell
July 26, 2011 at 4:59 am[Vladimir Talijan] “And just one thing, why the hell you want to import old finished project ever ?”
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, rofl…
We don’t open old projects or use tape for delivery or any of those other old fashioned things because we want to, we do those things because we have to.
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Tom Daigon
July 26, 2011 at 3:38 pm[Vladimir Talijan] “And just one thing, why the hell you want to import old finished project ever ?”
Another glaring example of the difference between Prosumer and Professional use of editing software. This person doesnt understand what goes on in a video production facility environment that has long standing relationships with clients. And the necessity to accommodate their clients numerous and varied needs. The demands this person puts on their NLE is much different then that of a higher end work environment.
Tom Daigon
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David Bankston
July 26, 2011 at 4:07 pmLooks like old Mac OS 9. Really outdated. Also the multiple windows that float and are not connected is really hard to get your arms around. Been testing Premiere 5.5. Like, looks like a go to switch.
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