Apple has not abandoned you. Good read for the naysayers :)

[Aindreas Gallagher]

hahaha – no bud – that was hypothetical. I’m not buying her, I’ll have to eventually, to sort of see the horror. but it is not installed. I go back to the post house to edit on FCP7 tomorrow.

i’d maybe say – well, see in two years, maybe check back then, but there are problems – the level of shock with what apple has done will I think mean that many post facilities will scramble out because FCP is probably really not coming back as they understand it. And so they need to move pretty fast. The last FCP release is end of life. There is no indication FCP is coming back, Apple have built something completely different for a different market.

so then we have a *competitive* marketplace that has PPRo run by a flash obsessed company, where you can’t pop a clip up onto V2 frame accurately currently, or paste any specific clip properties, or Avid, who are as mercurial as they have always been, and well.. that’s that.
The thing is that FCP was comfortably swimming to a centre point as a best in class application for the broadest use cases, but apple just nuked that app and declared a new interest based on their wider consumer concerns.

Apple really aren’t coming back. That application they released really is that application and its not intended for us. It is palpably a prosumer app, that is what they wanted it to be, and that is what it is, to put back what we need would necessitate a degree of visual and conceptual complexity that apple have never envisioned for this editing application. It is what it is – FCP is gone.

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Scott Sheriff]

[Matt Callac] “I can totally understand lurking. I lurked for 3 years on a skatboarding online forum before I actually posted in it. A lot of message boards even show how many “guests” are viewing topics at any given time. At the cow we don’t really have that. I’ve been a member here since 2004 i think, and I don’t have that many posts, b/c I lurk way more than I post.”

I lurked here for about a year until we got fiber and could get off dial up. I also continued to lurk a while after I signed up, just to get the vibe.
I don’t know how many posts you have, but I do recognize your name when I see it. So obviously you post something once in a while.

I’m sure you saw the post from Melanie Brands, bust on Walter and Richard.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/3920
Now there is a good reason to lurk for a while before you post. She just didn’t disagree, she trashed them.
Now like all people in a creative business, we don’t always see eye to eye. But agree or disagree there are some folks here that deserve respect because they put a lot of time in, and have a proven background. Those two guys fit in that category, and their opinion carries a lot more weight than someone that just showed up today.

Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

I have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…

“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair

[Aindreas Gallagher]

sure well, as the man says, if you can’t laugh…

http://www.ogallchoir.net
promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Ken Pugh]

Nice idea! But you are so cruel….

FCP 1 could digitise from tape
FCP 1 could lay off to tape
FCP 1 could export and EDL
FCP 1 could import an EDL
FCP 1 had a source window AND a record window

We wait for these features in FCPX

However it’s true FCP 1 didn’t have the ability to randomly move audio between tracks while moving shots in the timeline…

😉

Ken.

[Tom Wolsky]

We keep hearing this re-written from the ground up stuff, but I’ve got to say I’m not seeing re-written from the ground up, I’m seeing a rework of iMovie with added features. This would be an excellent upgrade for iMovie, which is basically what it is.

All the best,

Tom

Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

[James Carey]

Maybe i missed it in this thread, has anybody addressed this one telling sentence in the ARS op-ed:

“What’s really rubbing users the wrong way, however, is Apple’s decision to discontinue its mid-range Final Cut Express video editing software”

What? Has any body even complained (or cared) that FCE is gone? That the author of the article thinks this a big deal indicates a lack of understanding as to what has perturbed editing professionals. We are sorry that a excellent and professional video tool has been abandoned, with a pro-sumer version replacing it. Waiting for Apple to upgrade this semi-pro tool to a useable level may be akin to waiting for Apple to fix FCP’s Media Management.

Jim Carey
Director of Video, Radical Entertainment

[Misha Aranyshev]

My memory is a bit fuzzy but didn’t it have Match Frame? I’m positive it had real Replace.

[Rafael Amador]

I fully agree with Tom Wolsky.
This is “iMovie Gold Star”
[Buddy Couch] “People haven’t even had time to read the manual, “
Which manual?
Do you call that a manual?

[Buddy Couch] “ts missing some very important components “
Some very important component no, some BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL components for a guy who WORKS on video.
It will take 3 YEARS to catch FC.7 and will always be a crappy pack of presets.

Apple is not making a Professional-Video-Edit tool, is making an application to edit for his platform.
Apple will support only what will be interesting for Apple, and all his funny devices (Looks like Apple is getting ready for that “world of pain” that is BR. Well is one of the owners).

I started editing in 1985, and was not until I open FC first time in 2003, that I saw NLE designed by video editors and for video editors.
It seems that this time, the developers come from another galaxy: Must be future even if we don’t understand it yet. If the “experts” say so, must be like that.
But mostly try to listen those that being less expert, spend 8/12 hours a day with FC.
rafael

http://www.nagavideo.com

[Clay Couch]

Ya the one under help.

[Clay Couch]

I don’t know his ultimate goals. I think we would be foolish at best to try and guess what they are. They do seem doomed at this point I must admit. We shall see. I guess its off to Avid for most.