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Apple has not abandoned you. Good read for the naysayers :)
Scott Sheriff replied 14 years, 11 months ago 20 Members · 55 Replies
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Scott Sheriff
June 22, 2011 at 9:20 pm[Matt Callac] “hahahah
Scott, I love that you’re looking at how long poeople have been active members everytime they sound like a fanboy. It is oddly coincidental.”I look at the profiles of a lot of the names of people that post here. It is good to get a frame of reference as to how much experience they have, and in what areas.
It seems odd to me to have been on here for quite a while, and never seeing a post from some of these names. And when see they signed up on the same day as the X release and you bust them on it, they all claim to be ‘lurkers’. They smell like trolls to me.
There is plenty of fanboi action on here from names a I see on a regular basis.
But it is hard to believe someone could be a working professional for any length of time and not find something in at least one of the COW forums worth posting about in the last year or two.
Or to look at it another way, if you’re so disinterested in the goings on in the media world that you can’t be bothered to chime in until X comes along, I can’t really take your opinion seriously.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
You should be suitably impressed…“If you think it’s expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.” —Red Adair
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Matt Callac
June 22, 2011 at 9:21 pm[Michael Aranyshev] “AV Foundation is in Snow Leopard too. It’s just not open for third parties so no one knows how complete it is.”
I know it’s technically in snowleapord as well. I could be wrong about this…but I thought I’d read that snow leopard was still heavily reliant on quicktime, and it wouldn’t be gone as we know it till Lion.
-mattyc
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Clay Couch
June 22, 2011 at 9:29 pmWhy would anyone change to a software that they didn’t know in mid cycle of a high pressure project? I cannot understand this.
Before my companies would take anything mainstream, it would be tested by a select few, only then would it be seriously considered as a mainstay. If you have high pressure projects like the one you mentioned, I highly suggest you revert back to FCP7 to get it done. As I said in a previous thread, even if Final Cut X had all of the things you guys wanted right now. You would be in over your head trying to complete a professional project 35 hours after a brand new software package was installed. This was not FCP7.5, apple made this clear up front. You could see from the screen shots that it didn’t look anything like FCP7 or previous versions.
I respect your views and feel your pain, yet I have to question your thought process attempting to do a project this fast on a ver 1.0 software that was just rebuilt from the ground up. I mean no disrespect to you what so ever.
Apple should have been more clear that this wasn’t going to be something you could just install and use current knowledge to edit. This is for sure.
Buddy C
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Matt Callac
June 22, 2011 at 9:30 pm[Scott Sheriff] “It seems odd to me to have been on here for quite a while, and never seeing a post from some of these names. And when see they signed up on the same day as the X release and you bust them on it, they all claim to be ‘lurkers’.”
I can totally understand lurking. I lurked for 3 years on a skatboarding online forum before I actually posted in it. A lot of message boards even show how many “guests” are viewing topics at any given time. At the cow we don’t really have that. I’ve been a member here since 2004 i think, and I don’t have that many posts, b/c I lurk way more than I post.
-mattyc
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Simon Ubsdell
June 22, 2011 at 9:37 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “Buddy man, I’m not over reacting – this is a joke – i can now sit on an imac and prep a CNN ireport on my secondary story line while my files are default saved to my home folder. “
Priceless!!!!!!!!
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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Douglas K. dempsey
June 22, 2011 at 9:49 pmHerb, you underestimate my pessimism. The comment is rhetorical; of course it won’t happen.
As I have said all over this forum, the fact that FCP7 is discontinued, that FCPX won’t open our previous work, proves to me that Apple is out of the pro market for good. They would like to redefine what “pro” means of course, casting the high-end users as wonky, whining “elites” and convince every YouTuber out there that a MacBook “Pro” and Final Cut “Pro” X will accomplish 99% of everything that matters.
And they will be proven right, if the popularity of reality TV is any indication. Let Pixar labor with Renderman and proprietary software, let network TV folks cut on Avid, let feature films do the same… but the rest of the entertainment world will survive on instantly-shot-edited and spewed media.
I think Apple has been exiting the pro market for awhile, and this is the harshest evidence yet.
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Clay Couch
June 22, 2011 at 9:56 pmInteresting you guys use the term professional a lot. Professionals I know do not switch software packages in the middle of projects. I am not pointing you out in particular, but quite a few on here have obviously done so.
It certainly makes me not take their opinion seriously. As far as not posting, I read mostly. Its where you learn the most you know? Listening and reading. To be honest the only reason I signed up to post here was the simple fact FCP X is completely new. There are no existing forums to use the search function on. I was forced to inquire rather than read existing information.
There you go, now you know why my account was created on release day.
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Ken Pugh
June 22, 2011 at 10:04 pmWell that’s a relief – I see from the help pages:
Create optimized media: This option transcodes video to the Apple ProRes 422 codec format, which provides better performance during editing, faster render times, and better color quality for compositing. Still images are transcoded to either JPEG (if the original file doesnʼt have alpha channel information) or PNG files (if the file has alpha channel information). If the original camera format can be edited with good performance, this option will be dimmed.
Again according to the help pages the supported codecs are:
You can import and work with the following video, audio, and still-image formats in Final Cut Pro:
Video formats
Apple Animation codec
Apple Intermediate codec
Apple ProRes (all versions)
AVC-Intra
AVCHD (including AVCCAM, AVCHD Lite, and NXCAM)
DV (including DVCAM, DVCPRO, and DVCPRO50) DVCPRO HD
H.264
HDV
iFrame Motion JPEG (OpenDML only)
MPEG IMX (D-10)
Uncompressed 10-bit 4:2:2 Uncompressed
8-bit 4:2:2
XDCAM HD/EX/HD422
QuickTime formatsFrom the info above it seems a little more promising, this was the whole point of the re-write as far as I could see – no transcoding and multiple native codec editing. So all these codecs can be edited natively with real-time performance on the same timeline with no transcoding?
Ken.
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Annaël Beauchemin
June 22, 2011 at 10:04 pm[Ken Pugh] “Just like FCP I’m sure new features will be added incrementally and in 10 years we could be back where we started.”
I wonder how does Final Cut Pro 1.0 compares to Final Cut Pro X, feature-wise. We’re talking of a 12 years gap from one to another.
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