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Apple gives up another network client
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “FCPX is utterly rejected by precisely the people who brought its predecessor to prominence, because it is an irritating, intellectually reductive, detestable prosumer mess.”
No, it’s not. So there. :-p
Actually, your post reminded me of an article I had read when X first appeared. I hunted it down, here’s an excerpt:
..Or is (the backlash) coming from non-Final Cut Pro users who see the $299 writing on the wall and realize that they’ll soon very likely have to learn something dramatically new and different from outside their comfort zone? Apple’s previous Final Cut Pro versions have not stopped working, nor has Apple stopped work on FCP X – in fact, they’ve just started working with a paradigm-shifing, extremely strong and powerful foundation upon which to build. Have a minute of patience, please. I heard the same sort of whining when we went from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X and some had to be dragged kicking and screaming. People stopped crying over Mac OS 9 in short order, too.
Or… perhaps some editors feel a little bit threatened that “non-pro” users will be able to edit so well for so little? And/or perhaps it’s coming from Apple’s now price-demolished competition who simply cannot crunch their numbers and make them come out profitably if Apple is going to offer Final Cut Pro X for $299?
🙂
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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
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the point stands:
editing is not reading, it is not gardening, it is not embroidery.
Editing is a highly competitive paid pursuit.
No one pays you to edit with FCPX. Outside of mathematical rounding errors, no facility offers FCPX to clients. FCPX is completely non-existent editing software.
Its just a weird, one off appstore cash grab by apple.
this isn’t a coincidence, or a blip, this is software going about as far as motion, and that never went anywhere.
the people in the big shops, who only ever tolerated FCP6-7 – they have dumped the whole thing.
they’ve gone back to avid.
the little people, – read; a lot of us – who were getting inroads via FCP – would never touch FCPX because (A) it’s stupid software (B) it killed the entire FCP gig and (C) it proves apple are gone beyond the pale as someone you could ever be stupid enough to trust in the medium term.
FCPX is on the whole, pretty horribly confused software, and it has no friends, in any direction. none.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Sadly Aindreas, FCPX is a vision of the future, Adobe have already adopted a version of the skimmer and I’m sure the magnetic timeline is next. Then they’ll add a few layers of chrome and you’ll be forced screaming into the arms of Avid.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “And – this is most critical – in its dark early days – who championed FCP?
US.”
‘US’ was a teeny tiny microcosm of the editing community.
It was a joke to the “pros” of the time.
About three years after that, it was no longer a joke, but a topic of conversation, and worth a mention.
You have to remember XML wasn’t included until v4, 4 years after FCP’s initial announcement.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “‘US’ was a teeny tiny microcosm of the editing community.
It was a joke to the “pros” of the time.
About three years after that, it was no longer a joke, but a topic of conversation.
You have to remember XML wasn’t included until v4, 4 years after its initial announcement.”
I think the majority of people who use, love, and are horrified by the passing of FCP “classic” probably started using it around version 3 or later. They don’t remember the sneers and derision that greeted the first couple versions. Or the lack of “pro” features and complete lack of interoperability with other systems. I get deja vu a lot these days. 🙂 I’ve been using FCP professionally since version 1.something or other. I still use it and love it. But honestly, I won’t be sad to see it go. Final Cut is dead. Long live Final Cut. lol
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[Steve Connor] “Sadly Aindreas, FCPX is a vision of the future, Adobe have already adopted a version of the skimmer and I’m sure the magnetic timeline is next. Then they’ll add a few layers of chrome and you’ll be forced screaming into the arms of Avid.”
The skimmer is a good thing. Glad to have it in PrP.
And speaking of chrome, I noticed this interesting setting in the Audition preferences:
Adobe lets you turn off the gradients (which are pretty subtle to begin with) if you want a completely flat Audition UI. Go ahead Apple, feel free to copy.
As far as a magnetic timeline in PrP, you could probably count the feature requests on one hand.
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I get paid to edit in FCPX, and I find your solipsistic, self-centered viewpoint franking insulting.
Today’s FCPX user is tomorrow’s Pro, and they’ll continue to use it if it grows with them; the same way Legacy FCP did, the same way Premier did, and the same way Avid did way back (and yes, I was there and using it myself).
It’s lame ducks like you poisoning the well with your apparent bias that makes it really hard for people like me who’ve given the software a chance– and found it not only not awful, but pretty remarkable in a lot of respects. But you know what, when I DO get to sit down with those people and show them FCPX- not one of them has left the meeting thinking I was crazy.
After 20 years of NLEs chasing the same paradigms, I’m thrilled… ABSOLUTELY THRILLED to see someone innovate in this space. Even if everything FCPX proposes doesn’t end up working out, even if FCPX eventually does go under, I’m glad someone took the chance on trying something new.
If you don’t like it, fine. You’ve got your own way to work. Awesome. But personally I’m glad that there’s more than one binary process now. Editors have a choice, and that differentiation in the market can only make all products stronger.
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[Charlie Austin] “I think the majority of people who use, love, and are horrified by the passing of FCP “classic” probably started using it around version 3 or later. They don’t remember the sneers and derision that greeted the first couple versions. Or the lack of “pro” features and complete lack of interoperability with other systems. I get deja vu a lot these days. 🙂 I’ve been using FCP professionally since version 1.something or other. I still use it and love it. But honestly, I won’t be sad to see it go. Final Cut is dead. Long live Final Cut.”
Yes.
but some would say, Death to Smoochy.
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[Marcus Moore] “I get paid to edit in FCPX, and I find your solipsistic, self-centered viewpoint franking insulting.
“Just a reminder that we come here to argue, so shut your festering gobutit and enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y
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I agree that most large Post houses have yet to be convinced of X as a viable editing tool. So for editors whose work is dependent on these facilities -either full time or freelance, X is not even on the radar.
I use it quite a lot now, but all my work is agency driven and they don’t really care what you use as long as it can eventually go out to the Flame and ProTools. But having used it for a while I can say that there are some jobs for which it is fantastic.
I have a friend who’s directing a series of concerts to be aired in-flight on a major airline, and based on the production I recommended that he use a couple of FCPX seats as his editing setup. Multicam, background Transcoding, Metadata Management, Smart Collections etc would have been of a great benefit to his team, but he decided to go with Premerie instead. ‘Everyone says it sucks’ was his rationale. So your point as to lack of presence and negative perception is very valid.
But it is a good editor. This is why there are people who defend it. I have cut on Edit*, Media 100, Media Composer and Final Cut Pro and I don’t find X’s toolset to be lacking in any significant way. But it did take me a couple of months of seriously plugging away a couple of hours a day to get to the point where I was comfortable using it on a real job.
What are you cutting on these days btw Aindreas?
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