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Apple getting ready for the coming new MacPros?
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[Neil Goodman] “Sure that makes sense, but nothing about your original post put it in that context, or at least I missed it ☺”
Neil,
I’ve been writing regularly in this forum for nearly a decade now.
Forgive me if I presume people will understand some of the context from my prior posts.
That said, if the post wasn’t clear, that’s on me.
And I’ll try to do better.
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[Bill Davis] “I guess it would be interesting to see what would happen if Apple decided to spend a few million in pocket change to wrap the LVCC in huge banner ads next year at NAB — ala what Adobe did a few years back. “
I’m sure you remember the FCP “legacy” days at the LVCC. But it seems they’d have to beat BMD to the punch these days.
[Bill Davis] “Particularly if whatever Phil Schiller announced about the MacPro reboot ships near to or before that. “
Well, we’ll see. Circling back to the original point of this thread, my guess is the the workflow lab is intended to try to figure out exactly what type of machine to build in the first place. So I would be greatly surprised if the machine surfaced in 2018, let alone in time for the NAB. I think the professional editing market will be more than satisfied with the iMac Pros, so it will really beg the question whether there is even a market for the new Mac Pro.
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Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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I’m just still bummed that Apple, one of the best hardware producers in the world, came out with a long awaited “MacPro”, only for it to be admittedly a dud. Now we have to wait another few years to get what we should of just got in 2013. That said – Im almost positive the current imac’s and coming Imac pro will have more than enough juice for all editorial needs.
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[Neil Goodman] “I’m just still bummed that Apple, one of the best hardware producers in the world, came out with a long awaited “MacPro”, only for it to be admittedly a dud. “
They had dirt in their eye when trying to see where the puck would be. ☺
I work with one of these and am generally happy with it, but of course, you have to augment the connectivity. That approach is pretty typical of Apple and works for some and not for others. Where they really misjudged was in the non-upgradeable, dual GPUs. Only their apps take advantage of that. Other apps drive the system to overheat one of the GPUs, which often causes spikes/glitches in the rendered video. Basically I can trust an iMac or old Mac Pro tower to give me flawless encodes/renders. With the nMP, it’s a crapshoot.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “I work with one of these and am generally happy with it, but of course, you have to augment the connectivity. That approach is pretty typical of Apple and works for some and not for others. Where they really misjudged was in the non-upgradeable, dual GPUs. Only their apps take advantage of that. Other apps drive the system to overheat one of the GPUs, which often causes spikes/glitches in the rendered video. Basically I can trust an iMac or old Mac Pro tower to give me flawless encodes/renders. With the nMP, it’s a crapshoot.
“Yea I was on one at an old gig for a few months and it worked fine, just glad I didnt invest my own dollars in one.
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[Neil Goodman] “I’m just still bummed that Apple, one of the best hardware producers in the world, came out with a long awaited “MacPro”, only for it to be admittedly a dud. Now we have to wait another few years to get what we should of just got in 2013. That said – Im almost positive the current imac’s and coming Imac pro will have more than enough juice for all editorial needs.”
Oddly, I see it as an important learning stage for Apple.
The trashcan MacPro seems to me to have been pretty much designed around one central organizing concept – thermal management without trading heat dissipation for cooling noise.
It tries to do with computer airflow – basically what the dyson fans do for cooling. Bladeless, silent airflow.
No, the entire package didn’t set the industry on fire. But I bet it DID let a lot of the Apple hardware engineering team enhance their thermal management chops.
Witness how my 2012 laptop used to nearly burn my jeans clad legs in heavy use – while I can use my 2016 model while wearing shorts.
These are VERY complex devices.
If it was super easy to get the balance of price/performance/buildability/affordability/and maybe aesthetics and energy efficiency ALL in perfect balance – we’d probably have a LOT more choices than we do.
My 2 cents.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] ”
Oddly, I see it as an important learning stage for Apple.”I see it as apple getting burned by their own attempt at innovation….again. remember the cube?
They tried to jam a computer into a form factor didnt make sense. They had to develop this crazy airflow schism because they refused to give people something normal that would just work. Nothing wrong with a tower, tried and tested, but they had to be different. Look at where it got them. Same with the touchbar – who needs it, no one certainly asked for it.
I know you’d rather them swing for the fences but some people just need a solution that works especially when investing thousands of dollars.
[Bill Davis] “These are VERY complex devices. “
Yet somehow HP and Dell anf the countless other computer manufacturers can deliver a product without completely throwing out years and years of development out the window and giving customers what they actually need instead of what the assume the customer wants?
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[Neil Goodman] “Obviously Charlie Austin is using it and using it well to deliver high end marketing work but he’s the only one I’ve heard doing so and I hear people talk about X here. When’s the shoe going to drop ?”
Nah, I’m just a hack. ???? FWIW, Sony Worldwide Creative Content (part of theatrical marketing) uses X and has been for quite a while. Not a huge dept, and they don’t shout about it, but still. EDIT: ah, I see you mentioned them. 🙂
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[Neil Goodman] “I know you’d rather them swing for the fences but some people just need a solution that works especially when investing thousands of dollars”
Nope. I’m EXACTLY like you.
You want a solution that meets as much of your real world production needs as possible.
So do I.
But I have a slightly different (but equally legitimate) need than you do.
You see, I do a ton of VO work. I’d prefer to do it at my desk. And I’d prefer not to need to build a separate “whisper room” like VO booth to do it in. So a computer that handles its thermal load without sounding like a quadcopter at the same time actually meets my needs.
You’re fine with your computer whirring along beside you all day, fine.
I’m not.
So unless somebody comes up with a transparent laptop blimp, it’s nice that your problems are being solved – but mine still aren’t.
Hey, maybe someday I’ll get the FCP X Voiceover tool on an iPad!
THAT would be awesome!
FWIW.
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[Bill Davis] “I’d love to be educated about how the Premiere or AVID editing operations are improving and evolving.
“Yeah. I have to agree with the others here that experience suggests otherwise.
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