Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate??? why?

[Neil Goodman]

sorry but i disagree..more people are still trying to figure out if this software will work for them and there workflows, than there are people who have committed to using it full-time. At least here on the cow. So i say, let the debate continue. Not too mention ive learned more from this forum about FCX and other NLES than i have anywhere on the net.

Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal

[Tim Wilson]

[Neil Goodman] “Not to mention ive learned more from this forum about FCX and other NLES than i have anywhere on the net.”

I think you’re kind of both right. Willy, you’re certainly right that many people who’ve been here for a while are settling into a position that’s only occasionally a hard yes or a hard no…

…but Neil is right that each new release brings a new set of issues, and a new set of people coming to the forum who are encountering X for the first time, or in a new context.

Neil is also right that we’re talking about many more topics than FCPX…almost all of them more interesting. LOL

Since we’re not necessarily debating FCPX or not anymore, and there’s a panoply of debates, maybe we should rename it FCPX And The Debates, like Martha And The Vandellas.

In the meantime, come for the FCPX, stay for The Eebates!

Tim Wilson
Vice President, Editor-in-Chief
Creative COW

[Willy Pimentel]

Neil, I don’t dispute the usefulness of the forum, ( please read my post again) I am debating about the name on the forum.. It is misleading and it paints a negative picture…
The creative cow should let the users debate if the program is to be debatable or not but there is no need to be called that way on the tittle. Did premiere had the tittle on the forum as premiere: sucks or not? Or avid: a rookie’s nightmare? No !!! So why this happens to be the case.. And there is also another forum that is for techniques .. This is confusing … The name of the forum should be Fcp x.

Willy Pimentel
Motion Graphics Editor
Macbook Pro 2011 thunderbolt/ TBolt Displey/ 2 SSD Hds /lacie Tbolt

[James Culbertson]

Yes, it does seem like there should also be an “Adobe Premiere or Not: The Debate” and ” AVID Media Composer or Not: The Debate.”

Perhaps it is time to change the name to: “Which editing software should I choose, or not” or something of that sort.

[Devin Crane]

Yeah this forum has seemed to move on from the “debate” not near the heated discussions from former FCP legacy users as there use to be.

[David Lawrence]

[willy pimentel] “Why is this category named “Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate” ??
FCP X Has had some time out and for most i feel it is not a debate anymore. It is a new Program that requires some getting used to and y this time we should have made up our minds if we want to upgrade or not. I feel it is a negative connotation and a disrespectul nameto apple and to the many users who have learned and adjusted to this program. THis section should be called FCPX.”

A lot of us would beg to differ. Please see these two recent threads:

The interface is still annoying

FCP X as a database

Want to learn more about FCPX technique? Check out the Apple FCPX Techniques forum.

The FCPX debate is still active, passionate and robust. The name of this forum is fine.

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[Bob Zelin]

remember, at one time in recent history, Premiere sucked so bad, that there was no need for a forum that said “Premiere or Not ?” – because everyone knew. But now, Premiere CS6 is incredible, and it’s taking over.

But we NEVER EVER expected for FCP X to be like it is (or was) coming from FCP 7, which was so good.
It has been said many times that FCP 1 sucked, but it got good at FCP 3, and we all fell in love by FCP 6 and 7. Maybe this will happen with FCP X. But we were all “sucker punched” and angry, and that is why the forum has this name.

So this is still a very good title, and perhaps at FCP X V10.3, FCP X will be exactly what we want, and everyone will forget about the bad old days, just like we all forgot about FCP 1, or early Adobe Premiere.

Bob Zelin

[Mark Dobson]

[David Lawrence] “The FCPX debate is still active, passionate and robust. The name of this forum is fine.”

Can’t say it better than that.

I’ve been with FCPX since the launch but am always interested in how others are getting on.

[Michael Gissing]

Why do those who rarely participate in this forum regularly ask to change the name. It pops up every few months and no-one has yet to give a decent reason why we should change the forum name.

It is relevant to the history of this particular debate. While its relevance may be slowly waning as many Legacy users have moved away from FCP entirely and many have embraced FCPX, until FCPX settles into the workplace, many of us still want to keep this debate open. Smoke, AVID aand Adobe are also evolving fast so keep this debate open and leave the name.

[Jim Giberti]

To quote Sir Paulie, “Let it be”.