Apple drops ProApps from corporate definition

[David Mathis]

Oh boy! There goes the neighborhood out with the bath water. 🙂

If they– Apple, decides to deep six Motion and FCP X as we know it I will move over to Linux and keep a close watch on what BMD does with Fusion and Resolve. I doubt though that this will happen.

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[Shawn Miller]

[David Mathis] “Oh boy! There goes the neighborhood out with the bath water. 🙂

If they– Apple, decides to deep six Motion and FCP X as we know it I will move over to Linux and keep a close watch on what BMD does with Fusion and Resolve. I doubt though that this will happen.”

Ha ha, I don’t think Apple will EOL Motion or FCPX anytime soon either… but I do wish they would sell Shake to someone who’s interested in reviving it for Windows, Linux and OSX. If BMD wants to be the new Autodesk, they’ll need more than one compositing application, just sayin’. 🙂

Shawn

[Marcus Moore]

Much hay will me made, I’m sure…

The statement is geared towards the most public face for the company- proportionally ProApps is a smaller piece of the pie as the pie gets larger.

But I think there’s a circular logic that keeps Apple in ProApps, pretty much the same one that got them into it in the first place. Even though Mac marketshare has grown substantially since I first started using them in the mid-90s, as still a “minority player”, they’re probably still worried that without Apple exclusive apps, they’re at the mercy of 3rd parties like Adobe and AVID in terms of support.

APERTURE is migrating to PHOTOS, and we’ll have to see how that all shakes out.

To my understanding LOGIC still holds the same strong post-audio market position it always has, not suffering the same “X” stumble Final Cut went thru…

and FCP X, I think, is well past the depths of the X transition and is now on regaining some marketshare as Legacy support and mindshare continues to erode.

* EDITED TO ADD- MOTION which has been my go-to motion graphics application for going on 3 years now, holds A LOT of untapped potential. I think many editors who feel they NEED AE could probably get along just fine with Motion even with only it’s existing feature set. In much the same way that programs like Acorn or Pixelmator are capitalizing on the umbrella under CC subscriptions to build marketshare.

We have seen changes in the public face of Apple in the last year or so- how it communicates and handles information. I would like to see a return to the mid-00’s ProApps marketing- where they get out there in public more. Participate. And although I know Apple is very stingy with public facing events, nothing would please me more than ProApps oriented live-stream events to announce new releases or updates.

In short, a company as large and profitable as Apple should have no problem walking and chewing gum at the same time for as long as it chooses to.

[David Mathis]

[Shawn Miller] “Ha ha, I don’t think Apple will EOL Motion or FCPX anytime soon either… but I do wish they would sell Shake to someone who’s interested in reviving it for Windows, Linux and OSX. If BMD wants to be the new Autodesk, they’ll need more than one compositing application, just sayin’. :-)”

I been wishing that Blackmagic Design would acquire Shake or some other node based compositor and they have!

I think what could be potentially disruptive to the pro market is if Blackmagic bundles Fusion with their cinema cameras and URSA cameras much like they do with Resolve and Ultrascope. Could a Lite version be in the works with free updates? That could change the landscape. What if they have a Lite version as well? Very interested in what others think.

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[David Mathis]

[Marcus Moore] ”
* EDITED TO ADD- MOTION which has been my go-to motion graphics application for going on 3 years now, holds A LOT of untapped potential. I think many editors who feel they NEED AE could probably get along just fine with Motion even with only it’s existing feature set. In much the same way that programs like Acorn or Pixelmator are capitalizing on the umbrella under CC subscriptions to build marketshare.”

Curious to know why Motion has not been developed further. This program has a great potential but other than change in the color scheme of the interface with a slightly different location of tools, there has been a few things that could add to the value of the software, just not implemented as of yet.

It would be nice to have expressions for the power user base. Would love to see scopes and waveforms when doing color correction and have custom curves available. A three way color corrector would be nice as well. I do love Motion and the ability to create custom stuff for use in FCP X, just want to see it developed more. I will say that the UI is much more approachable then After Effects, and groups are much more fun to work with then the pre-comp way of doing things.

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[Marcus Moore]

I don’t know-

You’re right, other than a the UI update and the FCP X integration, no serious feature additions have been made to Motion since Version4.

I think much of Motions functionality could come from 3rd parties, if Red Giant or Trapcode plug-ins could make their way over I think it would fill many gaps.

The big hole in my mind right now is a really well integrated 3d motion tracker. SynthEyes is probably the best solution, but it’s not well integrated.

I need broadcast monitoring back as well.

[Ricardo Marty]

maybe apple is making space for adobe once they purchas. it from the future defunct cloud. just saying

ricardo marty

[Shawn Miller]

[David Mathis] “I think what could be potentially disruptive to the pro market is if Blackmagic bundles Fusion with their cinema cameras and URSA cameras much like they do with Resolve and Ultrascope. Could a Lite version be in the works with free updates? That could change the landscape. What if they have a Lite version as well? Very interested in what others think.”

I have to be honest, I really have mixed feelings about this. It’s great to have an inexpensive, deep color pipeline from capture to output. But it kills me to see high-end software at fire sale prices. Are we starting to see the end of pure software companies that can offer perpetual licenses? Is the future of post production software, buy an Nvidia product to get Maxwell, or subscribe to NextLimit Cloud to get Realflow?

Shawn

[Shawn Miller]

[Ricardo Marty] “maybe apple is making space for adobe once they purchas. it from the future defunct cloud. just saying”

Are you hoping for less choice?

Shawn

[David Mathis]

That would be something!

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