Apple and databases

[Aindreas Gallagher]

try this I linked it below:

There is no inherent superiority in FCPX due to its use of Core Data, and indeed I think it contributes to a lot of the sluggishness observed when a project gets complex and necessarily performs a lot more I/O on its SQLite database for each new timeline input.

thats from a dude who really knows. Thats how the database problem pertains to the FCPX timeline model in operation.

Clearer for you now? 🙂

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Craig Slattery]

OMG, someone call broadcasting house, tonights programme about Danny Boyle BBC Two at 10pm, was cut on dodgy database, its got to be stopped!!!!

[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “Even John Gruber was caught by it. And he’s the biggest Apple booster in the business.”

Yes, he was. “Devastating piece by Ellis Hamburger for The Verge on the calamitous state of iCloud Core Data syncing“

Didn’t see anything about Core Data itself, but I guess I don’t have the right glasses on.

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[Gary Huff]

[craig slattery] “OMG, someone call broadcasting house, tonights programme about Danny Boyle BBC Two at 10pm, was cut on dodgy database, its got to be stopped!!!!”

And this is why it’s hard to take fanboys seriously.

[Steve Connor]

[Gary Huff] “And this is why it’s hard to take fanboys seriously.”

Because they have a sense of humour?

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “thats from a dude who really knows. Thats how the database problem pertains to the FCPX timeline model in operation.

Clearer for you now? :)”

Um… no. That’s the opinion of a guy who knows, which may well be correct. I don’t know, and neither do you.

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Charlie Austin]

[Steve Connor] “[Gary Huff] “And this is why it’s hard to take fanboys seriously.”

Because they have a sense of humour?
“

Clearly yes. Pointing out tenuous possible flaws in software you don’t like is serious business!

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[David Lawrence]

[Charlie Austin] “I’m interested in how you make the connection from “Core Data syncing is potentially unscalable and ultimately unfixable” … to the magnetic timeline?”

The connection is here:

“Some issues with iCloud Core Data are theoretically unsolvable (stemming from the fact that you’ve put an object model on top of a distributed data store) and others are just plain bugs in the implementation…”

“Because of this there is a lot of fragility to the implementation, and I’m not sure it will ever scale well to larger data sets…”

It’s not about Core Data syncing, the problem may be a fundamentally broken design. If true, this is a very big deal. They’ll have to start from scratch.

I believe the same is true with the magnetic timeline’s hierarchical, single primary, parent/child, relative time model. I don’t think it will scale. Without absolute, external time, I don’t see how it can ever really support parallel, independent media streams such as multi-channel audio in a DAW. I don’t think roles will ever be enough. I believe the absolute, external time frame of reference is essential.

Like “an object model on top of a distributed data store”, the magnetic timeline may turn out to be wrong model for a truly universal time-based editing system.

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[Steve Connor]

[David Lawrence] “Like “an object model on top of a distributed data store”, the magnetic timeline may turn out to be wrong model for a truly universal time-based editing system.
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It’s an interesting theory, but as it stands, in terms of real projects, what does the lack of “absolute” time stop you doing in FCPX?

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[David Lawrence]

[Steve Connor] “It’s an interesting theory, but as it stands, in terms of real projects, what does the lack of “absolute” time stop you doing in FCPX?”

Using FCPX like a track-based DAW for editing. You can do it, but it’s a PITA and it forces you to work against the timeline design. I would not want a DAW with a magnetic timeline. Would you?

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