APFS considerations

[Walter Soyka]

[Bill Davis] “Clearly the High Sierra move is going to require more than a few developers to revise their software for the new environment. But they surely will. The Apple market is way too big to ignore.”

Sure. It’ll just take a little while.

Apple does not give developers enough quite time to adapt to changes like this. They require developers to drop their own priorities and scramble on compatibility. It creates occasional short period of uncertainty where you can’t run your apps on the new OS, and you can’t buy a new Mac with the old OS.

The price of progress on the Mac platform, perhaps?

Walter Soyka
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[Oliver Peters]

Tracking what does and doesn’t work in the pro apps user world:

https://finalcutprox.guru/blogs-main/products-blog/files/HSandHighSierra.html

– Oliver

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[Michael Gissing]

[Walter Soyka]”The price of progress on the Mac platform, perhaps?”

But is it progress? One article Oliver pointed to said there was no speed improvement with this formatting other than referencing not copying which as he pointed out has potential pitfalls. Is is just change, control or actual improvement? Hard to know with so little documentation out there.

[Charlie Austin]

[Michael Gissing] “But is it progress? One article Oliver pointed to said there was no speed improvement with this formatting other than referencing not copying which as he pointed out has potential pitfalls. Is is just change, control or actual improvement? Hard to know with so little documentation out there.”

So little documentation

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[Michael Gissing]

I’m not a developer but the article Oliver posted lamented the lack of technical documentation.

[Bill Davis]

The thing is that since at LEAST the migration of FCP to the App Store with X, the entire Apple distribution model has been based on “ship good enough to be useful” then relentlessly improve over time.

EVERY NLE – heck, every computer program period – now follows this model.

It’s JIT and Agile totally taking over from any thought of “perfect then ship.”

It’s how today works.

High Sierra appears to me to be a major platform change – designed to set up the future. And as such, High Sierra 1.0 will be a bit like a FCP X 1.0. Get the concepts out there so users can start learning them. With an eye to going farther, faster than you could have – if you hadn’t changed the fundamentals.

Very Apple, really.

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[Greg Janza]

Charlie, thanks for the link to the documentation.

And while it’s nice to have the official information, what remains infuriating about Apple is that the company is on the verge of releasing an OS update that includes a complete overhaul of their file system structure and yet the documentation is relegated to the developer section of their site.

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[Walter Soyka]

[greg janza] “And while it’s nice to have the official information, what remains infuriating about Apple is that the company is on the verge of releasing an OS update that includes a complete overhaul of their file system structure and yet the documentation is relegated to the developer section of their site.”

The file system is kind of invisible to the user, though, so what is there to document? Most users will never notice a thing, other than the longer upgrade while the file system converts.

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[Charlie Austin]

[Bill Davis] “And as such, High Sierra 1.0 will be a bit like a FCP X 1.0. Get the concepts out there so users can start learning them.”

Uh no… not with something as fundamental as the filesystem.

Thing is, there is a ton of documentation out there, and APFS has been on iOS for quite some time. I’m sure more documentation will appear, but there’s clearly enough to enable Bombich to get CCC ready for HS, and they deal with some seriously low level stuff.

https://bombich.com/blog/2017/09/14/preparing-upgrade-macos-high-sierra

https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/everything-you-need-know-about-carbon-copy-cloner-and-apfs

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[Oliver Peters]

That’s all well and good, but – other than saving drive space – can anyone point to anything that defines why APFS is better on computers (not iOS)?

– Oliver

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