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  • Brett Sherman

    September 17, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    Why would having OS on different disk formats matter? It’s pretty much invisible to the user and its not like you’re swapping system drives back and forth. I’m not even sure when formatting an external drive if it matters whether what your system drive is.

    I personally don’t see any reason to jump in anytime soon. But I’m not overly concerned when I get a new Mac either. The only thing may be if some day they drop HFS+ support in the distant future. But I got much bigger things to worry about.

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  • Michael Gissing

    September 17, 2017 at 11:20 pm

    I thought it almost more interesting that the article says HS is perfectly fine running 32 bit apps, it’s just that the app store will stop having 32bit apps. This means all the recent panic that HS won’t running Legend may not be true?

    Also the article says that APFS isn’t faster than HFS+and remains undocumented so no-one seems to know what improvement it might offer.

  • Charlie Austin

    September 18, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    APFS will only work on SSD’s for now. Unless you installed an early beta on your spinning drive, it won’t change. https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/apfsfusion

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  • Andrew Kimery

    September 18, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “APFS will only work on SSD’s for now. Unless you installed an early beta on your spinning drive, it won’t change. https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/apfsfusion

    Crisis averted… for now. 😉

  • Charlie Austin

    September 18, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “Crisis averted… for now. ;)”

    Yep, hold off on panicking. Doom and gloom is timeless though… ????

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  • Michael Gissing

    September 18, 2017 at 11:31 pm

    [Charlie Austin]”Doom and gloom is timeless though… ????”

    Just like blind optimism 🙂

  • Charlie Austin

    September 19, 2017 at 12:24 am

    [Michael Gissing] “Just like blind optimism :)”

    Of course. I think if you did a survey of all the users of any OS, NLE, whatever… you’d find that the blind optimists are in a minuscule minority. I think doom and gloomers are a larger subset. Both are very vocal. 🙂

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  • Oliver Peters

    September 19, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    FWIW – no one was ever panicked and the info was clear that this only affected Apple-branded SSDs. Unfortunately the information that Apple has supplied so far is incomplete and inadequate to completely understand the impact.

    https://www.shirt-pocket.com/blog/

    In any case, this means all MB, MBP, iMac, and 2013 MP machines with SSDs will be affected if you upgrade. It will also affect all new machines sold after that point.

    The biggest danger in this OS is that now files are referenced rather than redundant. So if you copy a file from one place to another on the APFS-formatted drive, it will be referenced, not actually copied. If the sector on the disk that actually contains the file data goes bad, you’ve lost all instances of that file on the drive.

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  • Walter Soyka

    September 19, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “The biggest danger in this OS is that now files are referenced rather than redundant. So if you copy a file from one place to another on the APFS-formatted drive, it will be referenced, not actually copied. If the sector on the disk that actually contains the file data goes bad, you’ve lost all instances of that file on the drive.”

    APFS has been rocking and rolling on iOS devices since 10.3 in March. It does have some real-world use under its belt, albeit a very different use case.

    I would caution everyone to make sure their everyday applications will support APFS. I know the Flame family, for example, specifically does not support APFS at this time:

    “As many of you have likely heard, Apple will be releasing macOS High Sierra (10.13) beta in the coming weeks, which will include a new Apple File System (APFS). This new Apple File System is not compatible with the Flame Family of products. Installing macOS High Sierra beta on systems running Flame, Flame Assist or Flare may prevent the applications from launching, and possibly compromise project data. We will be sure to update you with any developments as Autodesk and Apple work to address this.”

    https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/flame-forum/flame-family-and-the-upcoming-macos-high-sierra-beta/td-p/7168064

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  • Bill Davis

    September 19, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    Screenflow just sent out a similar warning to its registered users

    Clearly the High Sierra move is going to require more than a few developers to revise their software for the new environment.

    But they surely will.

    The Apple market is way too big to ignore.

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