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  • Any solution for keyframes that can’t be seen?

    Posted by Matthew Polack on February 21, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Have had a perplexing ‘slow workflow’ problem for many years with various versions of Premiere…and was curious if anyone has a solution…(I may just be thinking about this the wrong way)

    I often use Premiere to make photo montages utilising the ‘Ken Burns’ effect…ie. panning and zooming of photos…complete with a cross dissolve. To do this I add keyframes…pan and zoom keyframes at the beginning and end of each clip. (Copy and paste attributes is great for easily pasting one example across the rest of the pictures)

    But next is the problem that has stumped me for many years with Premiere…

    If you have cross dissolves already in place and go back to the first or the last key frame, the preview monitor actually shows either the previous or next photo (because it is showing the cross dissolve)…this is a pain because you can’t get a visual reference of where your pan and zoom is either starting or ending….often you can’t even drag the keyframe back to the middle areas to adjust the settings…what follows is a cumbersome fix…

    1.) Remove cross dissolves.
    2.) Drag clip up to track above
    3.) Extend clip left and right until keyframes appear
    4.) Move key frames to centre…adjust pan and zoom setting
    5.) Shorten clip again and slot it back into place.
    6.) Drag keyframes back to left and right edges.
    7.) Add back the cross dissolves.

    Is there some easier way? (Or have I just confused everyone?!)

    Matthew Polack replied 15 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    February 21, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Hi Matthew,

    I read your post of couple of times, but it’s Monday… I think this is what you are looking for:

    You can go to the context menu in your effects control and uncheck pin to clip, that will allow you to scroll past the beginning/end of clip and find those missing keyframes.

    Ideally, you’d want to apply transition before you create your pan/zoom, that should take care of that issue.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Matthew Polack

    February 21, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Hi Vince,
    Thanks for taking the time to have a look at my problem…

    Pin to clip certainly makes the process much easier…thank you…

    But it might be one for the Adobe team to look at…because I think this process could be simpler again…

    Essentially if I’ve clicked on a particular image and I want to go to the first keyfame I’ve setup I click “Go to Previous Keyframe” arrow…this does go to the first keyframe…at this point all I want Premiere to do is keep showing me that picture…

    …but instead it shows the previous photo…which really is of no use when you consider the reason I’ve clicked “go to previous keyframe” is to actually change a setting…not to look at the photo before…

    …so I then have to manually drag the key frame forward..change the settings…then drag it back…

    …ultimately as much I love Premiere… I think utilising the “Ken Burns” in Premiere is quite clumsy…the free program “Microsoft Photo Story” utilises a visual rectangle system that is spectacularly simple…but Photostory doesn’t have the export quality power of Premiere…

    I’ve also look at Lightroom’s ‘Slideshow’ but it also seems limited in this regard…

    Photostory’s “Customize Motion” system would be a fantastic feature in Premiere Pro….might have to add it as a feature request!

    Thanks again…you’ve certainly made life easier with that tip Vince!

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