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  • Another HD question…shooting with the Sony 900, what hardware do I need to edit?

    Posted by Adam Fischer on January 23, 2006 at 7:09 pm

    I have tried searching and reading through other posts and unfortunately I’m still confused. I had a firewire system now where everything goes through my DSR-45. Most of the work I do is on DVCAM. We have shot on HD before but always had it downconverted before editing. On an upcoming 30 second spot project we will have the budget to rent the Sony 900 to shoot with and I would like to finally edit this without downconverting if possible.

    After doing some research I was leaning towards a Black Magic Decklink HD card until I saw in the system requirements that it is not compatible with Matrox display cards and I have a Parhelia card in my system!

    My current system is a dual Xeon 3.0 with 2GB of RAM running on Windows XP. My question is what hardware do I need in order to edit HDCAM shot on the Sony 900? I don’t have a deck but I may be able to rent one. If not, can I digitize from the camera and master a tape back out to the camera? This is only a 30 second spot, so I wouldn’t need to roll a lot of tape through the camera acting as a deck. Also, what do I need to do for monitoring during editing? Is there a way to see the video on my SD TV? What kind of storage space do I need? Right now I have IDE drives in the computer and three LaCie drives on the outside. Finally, is 2GB enough memory?

    I hope all of that makes sense and I gave all the necessary info. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    David Newman replied 20 years, 3 months ago 10 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Steven L. gotz

    January 23, 2006 at 7:56 pm

    I suggest taking a hard look at Matrox Axio to edit HD.

    Steven
    http://www.stevengotz.com

  • Adam Fischer

    January 23, 2006 at 8:07 pm

    I forgot to mention that I have been fantasizing about Axio since I saw it at NAB, but I’m not ready to make that leap yet. I don’t do enough HD work yet to justify the cost, so I’m looking for some sort of stepping stone to allow me to do some work in HD until I feel all the standards and formats have been a little more sorted out. Then I have every intention of purchasing an Axio system. Any other less costly suggestions?

  • David Kirlew

    January 23, 2006 at 9:07 pm

    You could get a Blackmage Decklink HD card for $1495 and a massive storage array. Outside of that you’ll need to rent a Sony HD VTR to load the footage onto your computer. Outside of that your setup looks good.

  • Adam Fischer

    January 23, 2006 at 9:11 pm

    What about the compatibility issue of the Decklink card and my Matrox Parhelia? Does anyone have both on the same machine? According to Black Magic they aren’t compatible.

    Also, how big are HD files compared to a DV25 avi?

  • David Cherniack

    January 23, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    You might also try looking at Prospect HD from Cineform. It will ingest your material via HDSDI.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

  • Tim Kolb

    January 23, 2006 at 10:23 pm

    I have a Prospect system…it works very well. No added cards and it will run compressed HD from a SATA RAID instead of uncompressed from a SCSI subsystem, which saves some money.

    The image quality is excellent. The Prospect HD system was used to Post the film “Dust to Glory” last year…online and back to film, so the codec is pretty damn good.

    TimK,

    Kolb Productions,
    Creative Cow Host,
    Author/Trainer
    http://www.focalpress.com
    http://www.classondemand.net

  • Steven L. gotz

    January 23, 2006 at 10:47 pm

    No added hardware? How do you ingest the HD?

    Steven
    http://www.stevengotz.com

  • Mike Schrengohst

    January 23, 2006 at 10:58 pm

    If it is a spot then I would suggest doing an off-line and then on-lining at a post house that is all set-up. I have done this and saved many thousands of dollars by letting someone else have the headaches. In the near future look for fully configured HD systems that are ready to go. Trying to patchwork something together is an excercise in futility.

  • Mark Palmos

    January 23, 2006 at 11:33 pm

    Hello David,

    I’m curious about this.

    Prospect HD say:
    “Prospect HD-Ingest/Edit includes all features of Prospect HD-Edit but also offers ingest of single-link HD-SDI material or component HD with real-time conversion into CineForm Intermediate prior to writing the file to disk. This important feature reduces the cost of the drive subsystem in your video store by approximately 8X. HD-SDI and component HD I/O is supported through the AJA Xena-LH card.”

    but the LH card is not supported on PP2 (BUMMER!), so how would one input?

    catcha later,
    Mark.

  • David Cherniack

    January 23, 2006 at 11:39 pm

    Hi Mark,

    Cineform has taken care of the mechanics of supprting the LH card with PPro 151. I’m sure they’re doing whatever’s necessary to get it up and running under Prospect HD and PPro2.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

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