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  • Tim Kolb

    January 24, 2006 at 12:01 am

    [Steven L. Gotz] “No added hardware? How do you ingest the HD?”

    Xena HDSDI card. My point was there is no hardware acceleration for performance…just the HDSDI card for I/O. You can set up a generi system for uncompressed with the same off-the-shelf I/O card, it’s not proprietary to CineForm.

    TimK,

    Kolb Productions,
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  • Adam Fischer

    January 24, 2006 at 12:12 am

    That is starting to sound like a good idea as opposed to trying to piece together my own psuedo-HD system. I think I’ll wait until I can afford an Axio before I worry about editing HD myself. Of course when that day comes there will be some other latest and greatest piece of hardware! I need to become a blacksmith or somethnig and get a job where the tools don’t change so often!

  • Norman Lafranchi

    January 24, 2006 at 7:13 pm

    The decklink card works fine and it’s cheap. I would dump the Parhelia and get a proper graphics card, a high end gaming card like the NVidia 7800 GT with dual-DVI output will give you great OpenGL performance for Premiere Pro and After Effects or any other compositing package which uses OpenGL, without breaking the bank.

    The OpenGL capabilities of the Parhelia are pathetic compared to a card like this.

  • Adam Fischer

    January 24, 2006 at 7:51 pm

    But does it support three monitors like the Parhelia? I don’t mean two monitors and a TV out, I mean three monitors. What you are saying sounds great, but there’s no way I can go back to working on two monitors after having three for all this time. It’s bad enough when I have to work on my laptop!

  • Norman Lafranchi

    January 25, 2006 at 7:00 pm

    The short answer to your question is yes, but the long answer is that you may also need to replace your computer in order to get the use of 3-4 monitors.

    With the new NVidia cards (or ATI), and new NVidia (or ATI) chipsets, they support an “SLI” function where two cards can be joined together (requires an SLI motherboard). With the cards joining forces, you can either have a) twice as much GPU power or b) 4 monitors instead of two.

    If you go to the ASUS website here:
    https://usa.asus.com/products3.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=226&slname=NVIDIA%20nForce%E2%84%A24%20SLI%20X16
    This is an example of a new SLI motherboard.

    These types of products are aimed at gamers but they’re very handy for editors/compositers, because almost every new product being released (example: Premiere Pro 2.0 and After Effects 7.0) supports OpenGL acceleration of effects. (For the extreme example of the benefit of OpenGL to editors/compositors, see Discreet’s Flame/Smoke.)

    If your current system supports SLI, you can do 3 monitors, with two new graphics cards if not, not.

    But trust me, other than doing three monitors, your Parhelia is going to be holding you back with some of the new software out there. I’d rather have the extra benefit of better OpenGL than the third monitor.

  • Ralph Keyser

    January 25, 2006 at 9:52 pm

    Well, personally, I’ve had very good sucess with Matrox’s Parhelia as a solution for general purpose editing/compositing/motion graphics with a bonus of a true NTSC out without needing a separate card for that purpose. Matrox’s plug-in set works great with the Adobe products and Newtek’s Lightwave (which I use extensively). I will grant you that there are probably better OpenGL cards out there, but I also don’t think you need a dual-card SLI setup for editing.

    Ralph Keyser
    Albuquerque, NM

  • Adam Fischer

    January 25, 2006 at 10:09 pm

    Thanks for the info. I’d have to agree with the last post that I have had pretty good success with my card and while there is always something better out there, trading out the rest of my computer for a video card sounds extreme. It is great info to have for when I am ready make the HD leap and upgrade to another machine. Thanks!

  • David Newman

    January 25, 2006 at 10:52 pm

    Yes, Prospect HD will have LH support soon (working in house — just a few tweaks to go.) The LH issue is only with PP2.0 native mode, which you will not need using Prospect HD.

    – David Newman
    – CTO, CineForm
    – web: http://www.cineform.com
    – blog: cineform.blogspot.com

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