Another FCP_ioHD monitoring problem

[Jeremy Garchow]

Your footage should be 23.976, not 24.0 and your putput shold be set to 23.976 (23.98 as it’s known in FCP) not 24.0

Jeremy

[Gary Adcock]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Your footage should be 23.976, not 24.0 and your putput shold be set to 23.976 (23.98 as it’s known in FCP) not 24.0
“

AND you should be using the PsF setting NOT the P.

1080 consumer displays cannot handle 1080 as true P- the 1080 format is Progressive Segmented Frame or PsF

gary adcock
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Inside look at the IoHD
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[Sam Roberts]

Does the original footage need to be shot at 23.98 or is it just the FCP Sequence and Video playback presets need to be set to this? Or all three?

[Jeremy Garchow]

What is your orig footage?

[Sam Roberts]

Hi Jeremy. The original footage is RED One 24fps 4K (4096×2048) transcoded using RED’s proprietary app (REDCINE)down to a 1920×1080 Quicktime using the Apple ProRes 422 codec.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Mmm, Gary can probably help out more a bit on that as I have yet to work with Red footage, but are you sure it’s 24.0 material and not 23.976?

Can you manually change the frame rate in RedCine when you make your files or do you simply keep it as ‘current’ from the r3d file itself?

Jeremy

[Gary Adcock]

[Jeremy Garchow] “but are you sure it’s 24.0 material and not 23.976”

if it is 24.0 do a conform pass in CinemaTools to get back to 23.98, 24p video as truly progressive is not played out on most consumer grade sets

While RED footage is shot at true P – your display may not handle it- most do not – try the 1080 23.98 Psf settings

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

Inside look at the IoHD
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php

[Sam Roberts]

Hi guys, I actually went back and double checked the frame speed on the camera and it was 24fps. I can though, shoot at 23.98 and I will do another test today shooting at that frame speed. I did try the 23.98psf video output settings on both FCP and the same inputs on the io HD with no luck. I have a support request in at AJA so hopefully they may have a few ideas.

It’s too bad because the picture I do get on the plasma screen, even though it is only 2/3 there, is stunning and it will play back from the timeline in real time as opposed to the 1080i settings which do give me a full screen picture (also beautiful) but no real time playback.

Thanks for your suggestions.
Sam

[Jeremy Garchow]

As Gary says, you can run your 24.0 QT movies through Cinema Tools and conform them to 23.98. That will allow real time playback.

If you are planning on monitoring with a consumer TV, then shooting and posting at 23.98 will be a much easier workflow for you, especially if you have to any versioning for NTSC or HD tape.

Jeremy

[Gary Adcock]

“If you are planning on monitoring with a consumer TV, then shooting and posting at 23.98 will be a much easier workflow for you, especially if you have to any versioning for NTSC or HD tape. “

As long as you make sure that your consumer unit plays 24p content.

My guess is your plasma’s HDMI is not the 1.3 version so there for cannot playout 24p materials
(neither 24.0 or 23.98 will work here)

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

Inside look at the IoHD
https://library.creativecow.net/articles/adcock_gary/AJAIOHD.php