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  • Animation/Prores mix outputting to Flash

    Posted by Adrian Lort-phillips on November 22, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Hello

    I am editing a film on a prores timeline (PAL 720×576 16:9). It is going to end up as an FLV online, probably 640×360.

    The filming was done on a mixture of Digibeta and DVCam, converted to ProRes then imported. Crucially there are also some animated sections to import and insert, some of which dissolve into the footage.

    I have asked the animators to provide files in Animation codec which they have in 1024×576 around 11MB/s.

    I am having problems with the animated section. They don’t sit well on the timeline looking blurred when rendered. (maybe they should have sent them to me 720×576?) That carries through to the FLV of course. If I compress them into FLV on their own they look fine.

    However ultimately they will be part of the whole online. How can I mix these two elements together and maintain the progressive integrity of the animations? Any thoughts much appreciated.
    Adrian

    Adrian Lort-Phillips
    Radiant Media
    http://www.radiantmedia.co.uk

    Adrian Lort-phillips replied 14 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Adrian Lort-phillips

    November 22, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    UPDATE

    Taking the mountain to.. the man, I tried exporting my film footage into animation codec and then added them and the animated sequences onto a new animation codec timeline. Big files obviously but a much better result when compressed into flash. Is this the only way forward?

    Adrian Lort-Phillips
    Radiant Media
    http://www.radiantmedia.co.uk

  • Rafael Amador

    November 22, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    And why don’t you get your animation in Prores444 and put everything in a 1024×576 sequence.
    Make the sequence Progressiove and de-interlace the footage.
    Set as well “Render all YUV in High Precision”.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Adrian Lort-phillips

    November 22, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Hi Rafael

    [Rafael Amador] “And why don’t you get your animation in Prores444 and put everything in a 1024×576 sequence.
    Make the sequence Progressiove and de-interlace the footage.
    Set as well “Render all YUV in High Precision”.”

    Just to be clear:

    Get the animator to export in ProRes444
    Put everything in a 1024×576 sequence – so, a prores444 sequence mixing that animated prores444 and the standard prores together?
    Make the sequence progressive – how? by setting fields to ‘none’?

    Many thanks

    Adrian

    Adrian Lort-Phillips
    Radiant Media
    http://www.radiantmedia.co.uk

  • Rafael Amador

    November 23, 2011 at 1:09 am

    [Adrian Lort-Phillips] “Get the animator to export in ProRes444”
    Yes. Better than Animation which i guess you are using because the Alpha Channel.

    [Adrian Lort-Phillips] “Put everything in a 1024×576 sequence – so, a prores444 sequence mixing that animated prores444 and the standard prores together?
    Make the sequence progressive – how? by setting fields to ‘none’?”

    You are going to the web so in the end you have to convert everything to Squared Pixels and Progressive.
    Start with a sequence like that: 1024×576/SQ Pixels/ Field Order NONE.
    You only need to deinterlace the video footage before exporting.

    If you edit in Pal and add your 1024×576 graphics, those will be converted to Pal (720×576 Interlaced) in the time-line and you will need to re-convert again to SQ pixels for the web.
    Things like dissolves, wipes, or any kind of animations that is rendered as Interlaced will look worst after de-interlacing.
    Render everything as Progressive.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Adrian Lort-phillips

    November 23, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Thank you Rafael,

    That is very helpful.

    Adrian

    Adrian Lort-Phillips
    Radiant Media
    http://www.radiantmedia.co.uk

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