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  • Animation Codec – Motion 4 vs Motion 5

    Posted by Mohamed Mira on May 2, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    Hi

    I’m doing a calligraphy animation ( hand write animated text), so it is simple white or black over transparency background. so best Codec to use is Animation.

    In Motion 4 a file export video file size is around 1-2 MB, animation codec + Alpha

    In Motion 5 same file produce a 20-30 MB movie in size

    Any EXPLANATION, coz i’m going crazy. . .

    I’m looking for the minimum video size (with Alpha channel)

    thnx in advance

    Mohamed Mira replied 10 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    May 2, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    I think you are mistaken about an animation codec file being 1-2 megabytes unless it was a couple frames long.

    Animation codec is pretty old. Give ProRes 4444 a try. That’s the standard.

  • Mohamed Mira

    May 2, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    thnx Bret,

    check the data rate in the photos. the lower from motion 4 and the higher from motion 5

    simple export or share steps

    you can notice the duration too 5 seconds and 8 seconds

    what say you ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  • Bret Williams

    May 2, 2016 at 8:01 pm

    I don’t know. If they’re not the same animation, it is variable bit rate, so it’s deeming the other needs ore. Perhaps you have one with a moving camera and the other is locked off. Why worry about 20megs either way?

    But use the better ProRes 4444 if you can. Should be better results in smaller file.

  • Robin S. kurz

    May 3, 2016 at 8:31 am

    [Mohamed Mira] “it is simple white or black over transparency background. so best Codec to use is Animation”

    Question is: where are you going from there? Because if you’re going to FCP, then there is no need to render at all.

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  • Mohamed Mira

    May 3, 2016 at 10:28 am

    thnx Bret,

    ProRes 4444 gives same file size.
    I’m uploading these animation for selling on line.
    and why the small size, coz i’m living in a place with the fastest internet in the universe 😉

    thnx for yr consideration.

    i’ll go back to motion 4
    Oldy is Goldy 😀

  • Mohamed Mira

    May 3, 2016 at 10:32 am

    this for selling online and be used by any editing software.

    I’m not looking for a solution as much as why is that ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

    I had no problem to work with motion 4

    thnx

  • Bret Williams

    May 3, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    It would be an interesting test to see if you put the animation file from Motion5 into Motion 4 and output to see if it decreases the file size so dramatically.

  • John Rofrano

    May 3, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    [Mohamed Mira] “I’m not looking for a solution as much as why is that ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !”

    The only parameter that affects file size is bitrate. Obviously Motion 5 is using a much higher bitrate than Motion 4 did which is why the file is so much bigger (i.e., 2/Mbps in Motion 4 compared to 24/Mbps in Motion 5). If you want to control the file size, use Send to Compressor… so that you can control the bitrate yourself.

    ~jr

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  • Mohamed Mira

    May 5, 2016 at 11:00 am

    John,

    thnx for yr consideration .

    You can’t export Animation in Motion 5 without compressor as in motion 4.

    Still you can’t change the bitrate, even if u changed the quality, you still get the same file size. and u get another issue random frame rate as for ex. 20.3 or 19.7. hehehh ehehe hehehhe hehheh

    another weird issue, (motion 5 + compressor) it you forced the frame rate to 25 or 24 (what ever). the file size go to gigabytes hehhehhehh hehehehehe.

    still I’m not looking for a solution, motion 4 is great for my work.

    thnx

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