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  • Animating effects on/off

    Posted by Peter Whittaker on April 12, 2007 at 9:27 am

    Hiya,

    First time poster. Great forums! Hopefully you can help me….

    Is there a way to animate effects on/off, rather than just animating their properties down to zero? Specifically, I’m using 3 Glow effects on a layer that 3d flips towards the camera and fills the frame. I’m using three to have separate control over horizontal glow and vertical glow (alpha-based) and overall glow (colour-based). Once the layer fills the frame, the glows are invisible and no longer need to be on.

    If I disable the glows the comp renders 4 times faster than with them (no surprise there). If I animate the radius and intensities down to zero on all the glows the render time halves. So is there a way to tell AE to “totally ignore this effect”, and animate it? Expressions?

    To get around it I could duplicate the layer, remove the effects and cut from one to the other at the appropriate time. However I have 48 such layers, and I’d also like to know if its possible to do it the “smart” way.

    Thanks,
    Peter

    David Bogie replied 19 years ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
  • 13 Replies
  • Nico Jones

    April 12, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    All the incredible things we can do in AE…and we can’t animate effects on and off. I wanted to do this a while back. No dice 🙁

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    Fair enough :-/ I looked into a bit more and found the read-only “active” property for effects, but that’s no use.

    In the end I’ve animated the radius and intensities down to zero, since it twice as fast as leaving them up. Duplicating layers isn’t worth the hassle…after all, I can let the machine work overnight on the sequences.

    Thanks for the support though!

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 5:17 pm

    I don’t feel comfortable unless I know the machine is slaving away while I’m at home 🙂

    In this case though cutting the effects down means I can get two 20-minute sequences rendered in one night rather than just one. Given how close I’m working to a deadline, that might be a lifesaver! Now if only AE’s H264 encoder was as good as plain old Quicktime Player…

  • Danny Princz

    April 12, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    if you are using QT pro to make h264’s, then check out MPEG streamclip. its free, cross platform, and has better and faster results the QT pro

    who is that masked man…

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    hmm, nice tip…trying it now. I’ve been also trying Episode Pro, I’ll report back with results!

    Thanks,
    Peter

  • Steve Roberts

    April 12, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    [Dave LaRonde] “If you render an image sequence, you simply re-render the affected frames and not the whole movie.”

    You could set up the render queue to render some frames with effects “on” in the render settings, then render other frames with effects “off” in the render settings. Punch “render” and the queue renders ’em. It might work.

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    Dave, I’m using image sequences for a lot of the precomps, but I’ve been sticking with QT Animation files for final output. The final QT is 73 gigs: I haven’t tried a PNG sequence but IIRC it’ll be a lot larger. Second catch: I have a lot of my stuff prerendered, and in that case the render itself is a lot faster if you output to a single file format rather than a sequence (i.e. its mostly I/O rather than effects processing).

    3rd catch: using QT Pro to stick image sequences seems to take FOREVER! Now I use AE to stitch em, at least it gives me a proper progress bar.

    In short, I’m using a mix of the two approaches. I definitely see the benefit of rerendering only a small sequence of images rather than the whole lot, and its saved me a few times already on this project. Maybe I’ll just go the whole hog and see how big the final PNG sequence would be. Need to get a bigger HD though! 🙂

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 5:52 pm

    Good idea!

    ..but I’d need to set up 24×4=96 different render jobs.

    The alternative is to just hit Render once, and go home for the night.

    Which would you pick? 😉

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    Well the effects start on each layer, fade out, then come back in at the end. So I’d need to do two splits for each layer. It’s my own damn fault for being too tricksy!

    >Motion blur’s another big-time render hog.

    Hmm, I’d assumed if the layer wasn’t moving it wouldn’t process it.

    *runs off to find out*

  • Peter Whittaker

    April 12, 2007 at 6:12 pm

    well whaddya know, AE is stupider than I thought. Turning off mblur for the static layer saves me another 8-10 secs on a 60-sec short render.

    So maybe it is worth splitting everything. That said, I could stop benchmarking and I’d have it all rendered by now!

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