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  • AMA PRORES 444 workflow….WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

    Posted by Andrew Sableton on May 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Hi all,

    I am about to start grading a film shot on ALEXA PRORES 444 (1080P). It was edited in AVID 6.0 natively using AMA.

    I am trying to work out the optimal workflow for this. I tried to consolidate to my drive, transcoding to AVID MXF PRORES 444 but DAVINCI seems unable to see this media. If I consolidate to my drive, transcoding to AVID MXF DNXHD 444 and then export the AAF, that seems to work fine.

    If I just straight export an AAF from the edit timeline, referencing all the original AMA imported media, nothing seems to come through.

    So at the moment my two options as I see it are consolidate / transcode to AVID MXF DNXHD 444 and then go AAF or to export a PRORES 444 quicktime and do scene detection.

    There does not seem to be a way to access the original PRORES 444 media linked to an edited timeline from AVID.

    Suggestions? Am I missing something?

    Thx in advance

    AS

    David Yardley replied 12 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Paul Provost

    May 10, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    try importing media first

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  • Andrew Sableton

    May 10, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Hi Paul,

    Do you mean the AMA linked footage or the AVID MXF PRORES 444? I tried adding the MXF PRORES 444 but DAVINCI does not seem to be able to see that media at all….

    thx
    AS

  • Paul Provost

    May 10, 2013 at 5:32 pm

    the original cam footage, then aaf of project.
    if you’re still not relinking try unchecking “assist using reel numbers” to see what happens.
    then try edl from avid after first importing cam media

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  • Andrew Sableton

    May 10, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    I see….

    So my secondary question to that is, would there be any way to consolidate the footage that I actually need for the project if this works?

    There are several terrabytes of footage on the drive although probably only a few hundred gigabytes actually in the final sequence. The production will need their source drive back for other ongoing work on the project and I would rather not have to copy all of that excess media if I don’t have to…..

    Thanks
    AS

  • Joseph Owens

    May 10, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    [andrew sableton] ” transcoding to AVID MXF PRORES 444 but DAVINCI seems unable to see this media. “

    Probably because it would be better to encode ProRes as Quicktime .mov, rather than wrap it in an .mxf format… that would be a good place to start.

    DNxHD isn’t a bad choice, roughly par with ProRes.

    jPo

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  • Paul Provost

    May 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    save a self contained movie out of avid and use scene cut detection in resolve

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  • Andrew Sableton

    May 10, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    But as far as I can tell there is not an option to consolidate and transcode to .mov proves 444 in AVID unfortunately…. unless there is some way I cannot see?

    I am using the CONSOLIDATE / TRANSCODE function available when I control click on my sequence in the BIN in AVID.

  • Andrew Sableton

    May 10, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Just doing a thought experiment…..

    What do you think of this idea……

    1. Export AAF from AVID of AMA linked sequence.
    2. ADD all media on original edit drive to MEDIA POOL in DAVINCI
    3. Import AAF, do not automatically add media to MEDIA POOL
    4. Pray that it all links up correctly in DAVINCI
    5. Assuming prayer in step 4 has been heard by the DIVA BLACKMAGIC God, then render out the sequence without any grade on it to my separate drive and export an AAF
    7. Remove ORIGINAL EDIT drive from my system.
    6. IMPORT AAF into AVID, send out another prayer to DIVA BLACKMAGIC, hope I am linked to the renders.
    7. Export a new AAF from my new AVID sequence that should be linked to my DAVINCI renders
    8. Import new AAF and hope it links up right again….
    9. Grade

    In other words, use DAVINCI as my consolidate tool.

    I don’t have the drive with me right now so cannot test this but, presuming I can get the AMA sequence to connect up via AAF, I think this workflow makes sense….

    Thoughts?

    AS

  • Hans Vogel

    May 11, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Best is to consolidate the raw 444 footage. You could use edl spy for this task:

    https://edlspy.felixhuesken.de/

    Cheers

  • Chris Martin

    May 11, 2013 at 3:36 pm

    Instead of using an AAF, use EDL(s). Using EDL manager format as file 32 or file 16 to get full clip name as reel ID. You can first use EDLs to load camera original selects only into media pool to consolidate. If you are referencing external production drives you can then use clip manager to copy the consolidated clips to your local drives. Then use the same EDLs to conform.

    EDLs may be limited in what info is under the hood but it is still the most full proof route to go.

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