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  • Robert Brown

    July 15, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    [Chris Kenny] “Seriously. The original Mac, the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad (among others) all faced very similar initial reactions in some circles. “The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things,” etc.

    Oh, sure, this time it’s different, right? Maybe. But given Apple’s track record, that’s not the way to bet.

    You just listed a bunch of toys for consumers which I admittedly own myself but could live without – except for the mouse that was a good one.

    But what is Apple’s “track record” with pro products? They don’t invent them they buy them from somebody else, play with them a few years and then KILL them, or in this case mutate it into a consumer product.

    I have faith in Apple to keep making and selling toys, and to keep the stock price up. I’ll look to other companies for professional products.

  • Chris Kenny

    July 15, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    [Robert Brown] “You just listed a bunch of toys for consumers which I admittedly own myself but could live without – except for the mouse that was a good one.

    But what is Apple’s “track record” with pro products? They don’t invent them they buy them from somebody else, play with them a few years and then KILL them, or in this case mutate it into a consumer product. “

    The Mac is widely used by creative pros, and iOS devices are starting to see widespread enterprise adoption.

    In any event, you’re missing my point, which has nothing to do with the “pro” vs. “consumer” market segments. It is, instead, about how plausible it is that a new Apple product is merely misunderstood, rather than being a failure. And this is, in fact, quite plausible, given Apple’s track record of introducing products are are initially misunderstood, but go on to significant later success.


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  • Steven Gonzales

    July 15, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    OS9 to OSX included the “classic mode” to keep compatibility during the transition. I don’t believe this analogy is appropriate.

  • Sean Thomas

    July 15, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Most complainers own FCP 7 to help throught the transition to FCP X.x

    I think this analogy is appropriate.

    FCP 7 didn’t stop working when FCP X was released.

  • Robert Brown

    July 15, 2011 at 6:44 pm


    In any event, you’re missing my point, which has nothing to do with the “pro” vs. “consumer” market segments. It is, instead, about how plausible it is that a new Apple product is merely misunderstood, rather than being a failure. And this is, in fact, quite plausible, given Apple’s track record of introducing products are are initially misunderstood, but go on to significant later success.

    –“

    I have made no statement about “X” being a failure or not. I haven’t tried it. But I use 2 monitors, edl export, I assign tracks to specific channels etc., and from what I’ve heard you can’t do that in “X”. And from what I have actually seen in FCP, and it’s various releases, Apple does not understand pro video and simply doesn’t want to play that game anymore if they ever did. And they are not in a position to reinvent it. There are still fields to deal with, and 3:2 pulldowns etc. whether they find them interesting or nor.

  • Sean Thomas

    July 15, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Sorry for all my drama guys. I didn’t realize that what I was thinking had already been said:

    Steve Jobs: Stop Whining!
    https://scoopertino.com/steve-jobs-to-video-pros-stop-whining/

  • Sean Thomas

    July 15, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Close…

    Ford never improved the Edsel and droped it.

    You think for a second that Apple is going to do that?

  • Sean Thomas

    July 15, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Koolaide?

    I don’t have time to get mad at Apple, change computers, change OS, change NLE, change every program that I’ve ever bought.

    I stick with what I know, what works, what makes me my living.

    Along the way there were TRANSITIONS: Motorola-PPC, OS 9-OS X, PPC-Intel, FCP 7-FCP X.

    It’s simply a part of moving forward with technology.

  • Jamie Franklin

    July 15, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    [Sean Thomas]
    FCP 7 didn’t stop working when FCP X was released.”

    Wow…never heard this before…how insightful! Just the right dose of patronizing bs to set me straight and see the light

  • Sean Thomas

    July 15, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    You can parse words/ideas. It really doesn’t matter if you want to call it an upgrade or a new program. Maybe it’s both.

    It is what it is – sweetie.

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