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  • Chris Harlan

    July 15, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Well, that explains your thirst for koolaide.

  • Misha Aranyshev

    July 15, 2011 at 10:55 am

    We have a perfect clue. It’s right there in FCPX. All the design choices they made serve single purpose — prevent a casual user from making flash frames and single-frame gaps in their edit. That’s why the whole thing is in permanent ripple mode. That’s why there are two half-baked “Overwrites” and half a dozen of “Replaces” in the thing. That’s why a guy who edits full-time finds FCPX pathetic.

  • Jurriaan Van der kamp

    July 15, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    i understand its a first version. you might say that apple has some experience as it comes to developing editing software.
    But if you launch a first version that makes a simple audio cross in about seven steps you make one thing painfully clear.Jou abandon the profesional users! You cant tell me apple doesn’t know that.They know what a pro editor needsby now.If basic editing is a problem how can jou call this Imovie pro a stepp forward. It is a leap back for profesionals. We don’t care about a macnatic timeline we care about switching it off.When you have to switch a lot of “cool”stuff off it takes a lot of keystrokes and a lot of time.Time you don’t have.
    Not for a hobbyist they love it! They love to be helped but if you want to create something you heve to have freedom not a macnatic timeline that ordens stuff for you! Totally Pathetic!
    “Everything just changed in post” pro’s will leave Apple.

  • Chris Kenny

    July 15, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    [Robert Brown] “The theory that Apple is just way ahead of the curve and we’re too dumb to realize it just wreaks of the same arrogance of the whole “X” release.”

    It would, if this didn’t happen with virtually every major Apple product announcement.

    Seriously. The original Mac, the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad (among others) all faced very similar initial reactions in some circles. “The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things,” etc.

    Oh, sure, this time it’s different, right? Maybe. But given Apple’s track record, that’s not the way to bet.


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  • Chris Kenny

    July 15, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    [jurriaan van der kamp] “But if you launch a first version that makes a simple audio cross in about seven steps you make one thing painfully clear.Jou abandon the profesional users!”

    It’s pretty clear that Apple intended for audio crossfades to be performed via the new fade handles, but people want something that saves some clicking vs. that approach. Fine. I expect we’ll see such a thing in a future version.

    But I have no idea how handling crossfades, by default, via a more complicated method that provides more control, is somehow indicative of FCP X not being a professional app.

    People keep making arguments of the form “I don’t like XYZ about FCP X, therefore it’s not a pro app”, where XYZ has no inherent relevance to pro vs. consumer editing.


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  • Walter Soyka

    July 15, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    [Sean Thomas] “This is a new program just like OS X was to OS 9. Apple is moving forward with technologies it has developed over the past 2-3 years. Obviously the OLD FCP code would not allow “moving forward”. Maybe it’s a paradigm shift. Many older editors who think “this is the way its done, it’s always been this way” will resist change and moving forward.”

    FCPX is an island. You can’t bring in projects from other systems and you can’t get them out to other systems.

    There’s a lot of post-production infrastructure outside of FCP that many pros have been relying on for years. For me to use FCPX, it must interchange with other apps, or it must do everything itself. Since it does neither, I can neither use it my workflow nor replace my workflow with it.

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  • Jurriaan Van der kamp

    July 15, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    More controll is good. But i don’t see that.What the fader handles can do i could do already in fcp7! Only now they help you with it.
    The fact that i can’t just make a quick audio only cross without detaching video from audio and making secundary storylines and all that crap (about 7 comands!!)indicates to me that the app is disighned to help peope that find fcp complicated.This app is overclearly disighned for people who don’t need freedom and simple controll over all story components.For the demanding pro fcp x is more difficult and i find that stunning.

  • Gary Hazen

    July 15, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    [Sean Thomas] “So Apple, one of if not the leaders in computers and software got it wrong and the complainers are right? I don’t think so, doesn’t seem logical.”

    For giggles let’s use the tired automotive analogy with your statement.

    So Ford, one of the leaders in the automotive industry got it wrong with the Edsel and the complainers are right? I don’t think so, doesn’t seem logical.

  • Shawn Miller

    July 15, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    “Ooops – wrong…”

    Unless you never use the Internet, point of sales systems, ATMs or mobile devices of any kind, you can’t get away from Windows, or Linux, or Unix for that matter…

    “Never owned a Windoze computer in my life and never will.”

    Maybe not, but you sure do depend on them. You iLifeStyle would be impossible without Microsoft.

    Thanks,

    Shawn

  • Robert Brown

    July 15, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    [Sean Thomas] “So what is your 2 year / 5 year / 10 year plan for OS X, FCP X, hardware, etc.?”

    In 10 years you’re still going to need this track to channel 1, this one to 2, a little more or less time before the music starts, a little more contrast in that shot, blah, blah blah.

    And BTW I’m not complaining. I’m glad all of this is happening.

    [Sean Thomas] “Apple makes the program, the OS, the hardware. Editors can’t even come close to comprehending the development path – yet they want to dictate development.”

    Oh we’re that dumb are we? And no not dictate, maybe steer? There’s no way I’m ever going to look at a company like Apple as a sort of supreme being. They make products for people, if people like them they buy them, if not they don’t.

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