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  • Herb Sevush

    December 27, 2006 at 2:49 pm

    David –

    Both LiveType and Motion are for animated titling and require rendering. For the creation of basic “lower thirds” they are like using a canon to kill a mosquito. On the other hand the FCP titler is woefully inadequate for anything other than building slates. What’s required is an integrated CG application that can handle multiple fonts, colored and gradient background shapes, and the creation of credit rolls and crawls – and create graphic files with alpha layers that can quickly and easily be moved around the timeline without the need for extensive rendering.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Walter Biscardi

    December 27, 2006 at 2:53 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “What’s required is an integrated CG application that can handle multiple fonts, colored and gradient background shapes, and the creation of credit rolls and crawls – and create graphic files with alpha layers that can quickly and easily be moved around the timeline without the need for extensive rendering.”

    You mean like the Boris Title 3D that’s been included in FCP for years? That’s what we use for most of our lower thirds and what most of us on these forums recommend. The FCP titler is good for placeholder graphics, Title 3D is a very good titler, especially for lower thirds and full screen.

    There’s also a crawl and roll tool in there.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Chi-ho Lee

    December 27, 2006 at 4:05 pm

    With all due respect to Jerry, a lot of his advices (and they’re very helpful, don’ tget me wrong) are workarounds. I’m afraid we’ve been so conditioned to workarounds that we numbed to the original problem that caused us to discover workarounds.

    One example is that we’ve been numbed to or have forgotten what was once a very top priority for the FCP wish list for several previous years – Undo History List! I still have one have like Marco have been only asking for it since version 2!

    I also want a better Marker system like Motion.

    I was the tabs of each window to be easily re-arrangable like DVDSP.

    Customizable Font size for the ENTIRE interface, not just the Browser and Sequence (it should include menu fonts and timecode windows, etc).

    Boris gives you decent result but the interface is clutzy. It’s time to make the FCP titler more elegant.

    Realtime Scopes’ resolution is too low – it’s hard to see it in realtime. Need to make the readout brighter or higher res.

    Make system settings attach to a project.

    Make Capture Now force you to name a clip first before capture – so we don’t get 1000 untitled clips.

    I personally do not want to see a separate FCP Extreme version – the one big advantage of FCP over Avid is that there is only one version. You learn one version is that’s all you need. I know a few Avid trainers, and they all think that all the different versions of Avid ridiculous. Avid has actually phased out Xpress Pro training in training centers. You must use their new online training system for Xpress Pro training. Training centers will only be able to train Media Composer. And what’s the difference between Xpress Pro and Media Composer software? Not that much.

    I think it would be a mistake to have separate versions of FCP. Perhaps they can hide the advance features like the old days of choosing Cutting Station or Advanced Editing (or whatever it was called back in v3). Similar to how DVDSP is setup now – choose Basic, Intermediate or Advanced.

    On another note – I wish all camera and deck manufacturer would use 6 pins on their cameras and decks like the high end 1200A. I’ve seen two many people bust the 4 pins in a hurried attempt to plug a firewire in.

    CHL

    Chi-Ho Lee
    Film & Video Editor
    Apple Certified Final Cut Pro Trainer
    http://www.chiholee.com

  • Herb Sevush

    December 27, 2006 at 6:59 pm

    Walter –

    “You mean like the Boris Title 3D that’s been included in FCP for years?”

    No, not like Title 3D. I actually want a Video Titler that enables me to compose using the video as a background — if I wanted to compose my CG in a void I could use Photoshop. The requirements for a Pro Video CG titler have been around since before NLE’s were invented – basic stuff like:

    1 – being able to compose over the video so you can know what the composited CG will actually look like.

    2 – The ability to handle multiple font styles with differing colors. outlines and shadow types, including the use of gradients as fill or outline colors.

    3 – being able to create variable and interesting shapes to serve as backgrounds to the text, with the same color and shadow options as the text.

    Title 3D can handle #2 quite well, but it doesn’t address #1 and #3 at all. As I’m sure you well know, you could do this with a Chyron 20 years ago. You can do this with any number of PC based NLE titler’s now. You can do this, although not elegantly, with Boris Graffitti, on those few days when the Boris engineers can actually get Graffitti to work with whatever the current build of FCP happens to be (as a fully paid up Graffitti owner I believe I have the right to complain about this). But in FCP you can’t do this with Title 3D, nor with any of the CHV text plug-ins, nor with anything less than a motion graphics program like Motion, LiveType or the aforementioned Graffitti.

    And this is definitely a pain in the A**. For the life of me I can’t imagine that an editor as knowledgeable and experienced as you hasn’t worked with a decent, let alone stellar, CG program, and won’t admit that this situation is a weakness for FCP. Sure you can create lower third backgrounds on another track and work around the fact that Title 3D doesn’t have this feature, and sure you can move the 3D graphics around in the motion tab to better position them in the final comp – I can also drive in a nail with a piece of lead pipe, but that doesn’t make the pipe a hammer.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions

  • Nate

    December 27, 2006 at 7:45 pm

    Ah, Cinewave RT… Now I know why……. Well, hopefully mine will can stay on life support till April and all the new FCP upgrades. (Walter are you saying that the Kona 3, doesn’t have real time chroma keys or multi codecs in the same time line??)

    I am surprised that everybody commented on Software issues… and not the first mention of mastering or delivering on Blue Ray or HD DVD…. With HD DVD players under $500 bucks is there still no interest or client demand for HD DVD or Blur Ray Masters or release versions?

    Am I just out here by myself hoping for a True HD/Blue Ray DVD burner and software for the Mac Pro.??

  • Marco Solorio

    December 28, 2006 at 5:24 am

    [walter biscardi] “Now we’re all waiting for Apple’s hardware to “catch up””

    The G5 hardware is there. And the PCIe GPU hardware speeds are finally there too. It’s not so much a question of the CPU speeds/power, instead it’s the, shall I say, “unoptimized software development” to properly take advatage of that existing hardware.

    Things that were done in beta on G4s years ago are yet to be seen on quad-core G5s today. This is still a mystery to me.

    Marco Solorio  |  OneRiver Media

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