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  • AJA LHe card– LOUD gain and hiss on G5 Quad; output sound way too high

    Posted by Khashyar Darvich on May 6, 2006 at 3:46 am

    Hi Everyone,

    I have been reading these forum for a few months, and decided to register and participate today.

    I have a new Mac G5 QUAD, 4.5 GB RAM, a Kona Lhe card, and Tannoy active speakers.

    I connected the Tannoys to the XLR “Balanced Audio” outputs on the breakout box, but I get a VERY high audio level to the speakers with some hiss. I need to turn the Mac audio levels to practically zero to get a “normal” audio output on the Tannoys (which have no audio level control themselves).

    I had the audio output on the Mac set to the Kona card, but I would assume that there would be some way of having better control of the audio level from the Kona card, since having the Mac audio level set to about 5% seems too low to acheive a normal sound level.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thank you,

    Khashyar
    Los Angeles

    Khashyar Darvich replied 20 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Gary Adcock

    May 6, 2006 at 3:38 pm

    [Khashyar Darvich] “I had the audio output on the Mac set to the Kona card, but I would assume that there would be some way of having better control of the audio level from the Kona card, since having the Mac audio level set to about 5% seems too low to acheive a normal sound level.”

    Update your Kona Driver!!

    that will add a check box in the Kona Control panel to match the Kona audio outs to “unity”

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows
    Chicago, IL
    gary@studio37.com

  • Khashyar Darvich

    May 6, 2006 at 3:53 pm

    Thanks for your feedback, Gary.

    I actually did download and install the 1.2.2 software update package from the AJA website, and I have the “lock input audio gain to unity” box checked.

    I wonder if it has something to do with my Tannoy Reveal Active speakers (which haave no volume control knob on the speakers?)

    It seems strange that I have to set the output volume on the Mac to 1% or 2% to get a normal sound output level from the speakers. I know that this shouldn’t be.

    Any other ideas?

    Thanks,

    Khashyar

  • Bob Zelin

    May 7, 2006 at 1:42 am

    It is amazing to me that you want to plug your AJA box – OR ANY PROFESSIONAL audio device (like a VTR) directly into a powered speaker.
    May I URGE YOU to purchase a small mixer to allow you to attenuate the level coming out of your AJA into your speakers. If you don’t want a mixer, you can purchase a volume control like the Mackie Big Knob, to adjust your levels.

    The second you get yourself into a feedback situation with your AJA and VTR, you will blow out your speakers.

    Bob Zelin

  • Khashyar Darvich

    May 7, 2006 at 7:36 am

    I appreciate your advice, Bob.

    So, are you saying that powered speakers are designed to have a mixer between them and the incoming XLR audio?

    I assume then that passive speakers (non powered) could be safely connected to the Kona XLR audio outs.

    Does everyone on this board who uses a Kona card and active speakers, have a mixer connected between the two?

    Would the mixer correct the hissing sound as well?

    Thanks again for your feedback,

    Khashyar

  • Ron Thompson

    May 7, 2006 at 12:34 pm

    Bob is right, powered or not, you should have a mixer between your board and speakers. I’ve cut on a variety of systems, small and large, and have never been in a studio that didn’t have a mixer in it.
    I swear by the Mackie 1402 because its the ultimate “router” for small edit suites, but a big knob or any 4 track mixer will do the trick.
    B&H has the 1402 for $399.

    Ron

  • Gary Adcock

    May 7, 2006 at 3:03 pm

    [Bob Zelin] “It is amazing to me that you want to plug your AJA box – OR ANY PROFESSIONAL audio device (like a VTR) directly into a powered speaker. “

    I agree,
    I did not realize the Tannoy’s being referred to were self powered.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows
    Chicago, IL
    gary@studio37.com

  • Khashyar Darvich

    May 7, 2006 at 5:00 pm

    Thanks, Ron… I think that I will buy a mackie 1402.

    Since the sound level seems to be very high going into the speakers (or perhaps the powered speakers are really amplifying the XLR audio signal), would adding a mixer and adjusting the input and output gain on the gain remove the hiss that I hear as well?

    Khashyar

  • Ron Thompson

    May 7, 2006 at 7:18 pm

    [Khashyar Darvich] “Since the sound level seems to be very high going into the speakers (or perhaps the powered speakers are really amplifying the XLR audio signal), would adding a mixer and adjusting the input and output gain on the gain remove the hiss that I hear as well?”

    As far as hiss and gain, double check your sound settings in the system preferences too. Why yours is so loud is a mystery. My output volume is set at 90% and I use the Mackie to ride levels into my monitors and equipment. I’m not super-techie, but it sounds like it might be a setting on your monitors too. Gain, mic, line, etc… If you have excessive hiss, that indicates the sound is being amplified somewhere. Maybe some inline attenuators??
    The Mackie is a good choice…good luck. If you don’t need 14 channels, the 12 channel (1202) is fine too.

    Ron

  • Khashyar Darvich

    May 7, 2006 at 9:20 pm

    Thanks again for the feedback.

    I just picked up a Mackie 1402 at the Guitar Center a couple of hours ago, and now I’m going to set it up in my system.

    The Tannoy Reveal Actives must be a really amplified speakers… I don’t know why the volume is SO high on them (there is no volume knob on the speakers to make any adjustments).

    I also have a Tannoy subwoofer…

    Do I place the Mackie between the Kona card and the Subwoofer (which then has XLR outs to the speakers), or do I put the Mackie between the subwoofer (which DOES have a volume control) and the speakers?

    I will let you know how it all works out.

    Khashyar

  • Khashyar Darvich

    May 7, 2006 at 10:38 pm

    Well… I took the very good advice of getting and hooking up a Mackie Mixer, and it sounds great and there is no hiss 🙂

    The one thing that I need to adjust is that there is a slight delay in the sync of the sound compared to the picture…

    Any ideas of what to adjust?

    Thanks,

    Khashyar

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