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  • AJA iO HD > FCP > FW400 Drive?

    Posted by John Wise on August 15, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Hi, all. I have searched the Cow but haven’t found an answer to this question:

    Can I edit HD Prores on Dual 2.2 Macbook Pro (2GB ram) with an AJA iO HD unit connected to the Firewire 800 port and the Prores media (already captured) on a simultaneously-connected Firewire 400 drive?

    Approximately how much storage space is needed for 100 minutes of HD Prores content?

    Can I output to tape using this same configuration by connecting a deck to the AJA iO box?

    Many Thanks!

    T.

    Ted Griffis replied 16 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    August 15, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    [T. John Wise] “Approximately how much storage space is needed for 100 minutes of HD Prores content? “

    what size? What frame rate? What resolution of ProRes? All that factors into the equation.

    Digital heaven has a free widget for doing these calculation on their website.

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  • John Wise

    August 15, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Prores 422 (HQ) 1920 x 1018, 29.97fps

  • Craig Mcgillivray

    August 15, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Th short answer is no. AFAK your MBP only has one FW bus. IO HD uses this.

    From the AJA FAQ:
    Q: Can I use Firewire storage with my Io HD?
    A: Yes you can however only if you install a PCIe Firewire card and use it for the Firewire storage.

    Which you can’t do with a MBP. You could get an express card adapter for another FW bus, but then you might as well go ESATA.
    hope that helps
    -craig

  • David Roth weiss

    August 15, 2009 at 10:40 pm

    The very first page of the IOHD manual specifically states that “no” firewire devices can be used at the same time as the IOHD because it requires the full bandwidth of the firewire bus. On an older MBP with an express card slot you have the option of a firewire or SATA card.

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  • John Wise

    August 16, 2009 at 12:25 am

    Mine may qualify as “older” :

    Hardware Overview:

    Model Name: MacBook Pro
    Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
    Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
    Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
    Number Of Processors: 1
    Total Number Of Cores: 2
    L2 Cache: 4 MB
    Memory: 2 GB
    Bus Speed: 800 MHz
    Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07
    SMC Version: 1.16f8
    Serial Number: W874310MX91
    Sudden Motion Sensor:
    State: Enabled

  • David Roth weiss

    August 16, 2009 at 1:37 am

    By older, I meant the generations before the latest release, which except for the new 17″ MBP, no longer has the express card slot.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Gary Adcock

    August 16, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    [T. John Wise] “Can I edit HD Prores on Dual 2.2 Macbook Pro (2GB ram) with an AJA iO HD unit connected to the Firewire 800 port and the Prores media (already captured) on a simultaneously-connected Firewire 400 drive”

    NO
    not without a Separate FW card. There is not enough bandwidth on a single FW bus for the IoHD and any other device at the same time.

    gary adcock
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    Post and Production Workflow for the Digitally Inclined
    Chicago, IL

  • Ted Griffis

    August 16, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    For calculating storage needs, how many GBs you’ll need, and determining aprox how many MB per second throughput you’ll need out of your drive go here. Also, get the widget, a must have little tool.

    https://www.videospaceonline.com/

    Ted

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