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After Effects > Premiere Pro Playback Question
Hello everyone,
I was a Final Cut guy for a long time, but some of the features of the Adobe workflow just seemed to good not to try out. So I am running a trial version of Premiere.
I dropped my After Effects composition right into Premiere (which was awesome!), and then dropped that into a new sequence. I get a yellow bar on top of the clip. Now when I play my sequence back by hitting the spacebar, my playback lags so much that I can’t do any of the audio syncing I wanted to do.
Now I know I’m getting greedy, because not even in After Effects can you just hit the spacebar and watch your composition play in realtime without rendering first, but I was hoping there was a way to do exactly that once I bring it into Premiere.
Was I just getting my hopes too high?
I thought that enabling GPU acceleration would do the trick, but the option is greyed out in my Project Settings. Is that because of my graphics card? The driver? Adobe won’t give me any help until I purchase the product, but I’d really like to figure this out before I commit to the $$$$.
Here are my computer specs:
Model Name: iMac
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 3.4 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
Memory: 16 GBHere are my graphics card specs:
Chipset Model: AMD Radeon HD 6970M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
VRAM (Total): 2048 MB
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.507I have a RAID that I haven’t set up yet, but I’m not sure if that will help.
Thank you so much for your help everyone!
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The answer is kind of.
After Effects is very CPU hungry because it’s a compositing program. I’d assume you’re very aware HD footage needs to be watched via RAM preview?
When you “dynamic link” an After Effects comp, Premiere is still using After Effects to process that section regardless of if After Effects is running (Adobe runs a program called dynamiclinkmanager or something similar in the background, does all the “traffic control” for these processes). In other words, same system limitations.
A yellow bar in the timeline doesn’t always mean it will play without rendering. Your best solution is to preview render the yellow by going to Composition > Render Entire Work Area (I think it’s also shift+return). This renders red AND yellow areas in your timeline.
Also GPU acceleration is only available on some Nvidia graphics card for Premiere. You’ll be limited to using Premiere’s Mercury Engine in software only mode.
Angelo Lorenzo
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Angelo – Thanks so much for your response!
It’s a shame about the Nvidia graphics card. The rest of the internet seems to be giving me conflicting reports about how much GPU acceleration really makes a difference when it comes to real time playback.
The only issue I have with Premiere is that when I Preview Render Entire Work Area, it takes upwards of an hour to render the whole 1:36 timeline. Whereas in After Effects I can just set the quality way down and skip frames if I want a quick preview render.
It doesn’t seem like I can do that in PP.
And so when I go back to AE and make a small change, I have to re-render the whole timeline in PP, which is really killing my workflow.
Any suggestions? And thanks again for your help!
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And now my preview render is up to 4+ hours…
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Just for clarification, is it a 1 min. and 36 sec. timeline or a 1 hour and 36 minute timeline, that is taking 4 hours?
Tom Daigon
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Sorry – 1 minute and 36 seconds.
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More info needed…format of sequence….format/codec of clips…
does your sequence match EXACTLY your clips (format/frame rate/PAR)?Tom Daigon
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Hi Tom – I’m sorry I wasn’t clearer about how I got to this point.
I’m new to Premiere, so I may not have arrived here in the proper way, but these are the steps I took:
I started in AE with a 1920×1080 HDTV 29.97 composition. I don’t have any “footage” per say, only animated images I created in PS. I also have some AIFF files in my comp that are turned off because I wanted to edit the audio in PP. Nothing captured from a camera and nothing captured from a screen capture program. Images only.
Then I dragged my main composition from AE into the project panel of PP. Then I dragged the composition from the project panel into the New Item icon, and it created a new sequence which I am guessing are the same as the AE comp.
In this new sequence, I see my AE comp with a yellow bar on top. Now when I play it back (by hitting the space bar) it will play about ten frames and then lag so much I can’t even tell what’s going on.
Angelo suggested I preview render before I play back, which I did, but which resulted in a four and a half hour render.
Again, I’m new to PP and the CS workflow, so I’m sure I haven’t set something up correctly, so any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
And please let me know if you need any more info to diagnose the problem.
Thanks again for your help!
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Got it. Lets make this easy. How about rendering out of AE your project as a file (Animation or Prores or whatever codec you prefer). Then just import that file into Premiere Pro. Are you on PrP 5.5? Then as you did before, drag that imported AE file to the Make New Sequence icon.
AE renders in a manner that is much faster then PrP so this may help you out. Good luck! 😀Tom Daigon
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Hmmm… that’s what I was afraid of. That is how I would work when I went from AE to Final Cut, so I was hoping the AE to PP workflow would be a bit more streamlined.
Just out of curiosity, what would be the ideal way to solve this problem? Would having a graphics card with GPU acceleration allow me playback in real-time without having to render a video file?
I thought the point of the CS workflow is to allow me to drop a comp into PP, edit the comp in a sequence, make changes in AE, and then seamlessly go back into PP and continue editing.
Am I asking for too much? Or do I not have the right hardware?
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Or is there a way to adjust my preview setting in PP like I can in AE?
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