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Activity Forums Adobe After Effects AE on Ryzen 1700 not performing/rendering even close to expected

  • Melvin Chong

    July 9, 2017 at 4:38 pm

    No, I don’t have lots of money to spend but I know enough where to put my priorities on my hardware purchase. I buy my hardware mostly secondhand and I DIY my own workstations, even my 64Gb ram is 2nd-hand.

    You chose to take a chance with a new, untested CPU and that is why you are upset with speed issues. Apps will likely to be updated to take advantage of Ryzen with its new architecture. Meanwhile you will just have to deal with teething problems of your AMD CPU.

    Every system has its bottlenecks somewhere and it is just a matter of minimizing them by over-spec’ing your machine wherever possible. Fixing one bottle will eventually create another one elsewhere. System-optimization is a tedious balancing-act. The time you spent on trouble-shooting the bottlenecks could be better spent on honing your craft instead.

    I configure, commission, train and support high-performance systems for broadcast for a living and my speciality is in network-rendering for 2D and 3D applications, so I know what I’m talking about.

    My advice to you again is not to skim on ram if you intend to work professionally 2D/3D professionally. 16Gb is the barest minimum for a modern hungry OS like Windows. The more memory headroom you have, the less problems you’ll face down the road.

  • Jesus Suarez

    July 9, 2017 at 4:54 pm

    [Melvin Chong] “My advice to you again is not to skim on ram if you intend to work professionally 2D/3D professionally. 16Gb is the barest minimum for a modern hungry OS like Windows. The more memory headroom you have, the less problems you’ll face down the road.”

    Yes, and I appreciate your suggestion. I knew I was probably going to find problems with Ryzen when I made my decision and yes, I also knew I was most likely going to feel a performance hit when going with low Ram, but it allowed me to put more money into GPUs which I use for rendering as well. It’s about balance and I didn’t get enough RAM at the moment but I will be able to add more soon. Right now I am able to work, maybe not as fast and as seamlessly as i do on my intel machine at work, but so far the system has paid for itself.

    Ryzen is a fairly new architecture, I give you that, but I did do my research and people were having a lot of good comments and experiences with it, so it seemed like a good choice. And it is, there’s just things to tighten up like you said and that will come with time of course… I didn’t start this thread to bitch about it, and if it seemed like that, I apologize, I was just looking for some help and suggestions on what to do. Just wanted to clear that up.

    Since you’ve already specified what you do for a living and said that you know what you are talking about, do you know much about populating all 4 dimms slots on Ryzen boards? I’ve been trying to find a straight answer about this, but since march I haven’t found anything concrete…have the problems with 4 sticks of ram been resolved?

    Some people seem to be running 4 sticks without problems, but others say windows will not post, anything you know about that? I would like to be able to just add more ram to my system and be certain that it will run, I don’t mind setting my memory to a lower frequency but i would like to keep my current 16gb.

  • Michael Szalapski

    July 10, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Speaking of testing, Puget Systems have some really good resources for what works best in various software packages. And they have done a LOT of testing!
    Here is a testing of various processors (including Ryzen and the latest Intel chips): https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-CC-2017-2-CPU-Comparison-Skylake-X-Kaby-Lake-X-Broadwell-E-Skylake-Ryzen-7-977/ and here is their page discussing the best components for working with After Effects: https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-After-Effects-144/Hardware-Recommendations

    (By the way, if those links are truncated in the email, come to the forum and click on them. The COW doesn’t handle links in posts very well…)

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  • Sebastian Rasche

    August 31, 2017 at 1:07 pm
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