AE CS6 11.0.1 CUDA BENCHMARK PROJECT – test your graphics cards!

[Curtis Ling]

its only iffy in the sense that cpu fallback doesn’t work
not technically a hack but a unofficial update well semi unofficial in terms of adobe but in terms of nvidia not so much so
(adobe adds to nvidia base dll so …)
like i said to be clear its not a maxwell thing
because unless they update it cs6 raytracing won’t work in a tesla K80 either

[Yonni Aroussi]

Hi
I thank you Curtis and Ian

Curtis
I didn’t suite get that “iffy hack”.
Is it just a registry edit? what exactly does it do? Is it safe and %100 work?

The Pc store just waiting for my decision on that GPU matter and I truly have hard time deciding..
I can get the GTX 780 3GB for about the same price.

Just for the record-
I’m a 3D and Video artist. Using mostly Maya, After, Premiere, Mudbox, Photoshop and some real time GPU renderes..

GTX 970 Pros(GTX 780 cons):
4GB ram (important for Mudbox 3D sculpting and other 3D high poly related stuff),
and lower power consumption (less important), Better Gaming Performance (less important)

GTX 970 Cons (GTX 780 pros):
Less Cuda cores (the more cores the faster GPU rendering) Not officially supported in many software yes (Adobe issues and other Gpu renderers)

should I just grab that 780 and swallow the Vram issue?

Thanks

FTX 780 PROS:

[Yonni Aroussi]

Forgot to mention the 384 memory bus of the 780 vs the 256 of the 970…

[Ian Mapleson]

yonni,

One cannot judge the CUDA performance of a GPU based on the no. of cores or the
memory bus width. Read my previous posts in this thread discussing the GTX 580;
it has far fewer cores and yet is very strong for CUDA, because the shaders run
at a much higher speed. NVIDIA halved the shader clock after the 500 series (in order
to make power delivery easier to design & control), negating what judgements one might
normally make based on simple things like the no. of cores.

This is why the 580 is faster than all the 600 series cards for AE, and it beats the
lesser 700 series cards aswell (only the 780 and 780 Ti are faster), eg. two good 580s
are faster than a Titan Black for AE. See my results here, the Arion page and other test
results such as the Blender Cycles benchmark.

Indeed, for some tasks involving CUDA, the 580 beats all the 700 series cards (check the
reviews on tomshardware).

Not all tasks use CUDA in the same way though, eg. for AE, a 580 is faster than a 680 by
quite a margin, but for Arion it’s the other way round, especially for multiple GPUs
(Arion scales better).

Beware judgments based on simple things like no. of cores, bus width, etc. They can be
very misleading, certainly in this instance.

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Curtis Ling]

the 780 isnt officially supported in cs6 anyway
the hack only replaces an application extension
it work but only on the gpu
it should be safe as ae only has one dependency so far nothing broke here
i even ran the https://www.loopoutcontinue.com/cuda/ benchmark

one thing tho AE ray tracing is one thing iray/mental ray/whatnot support for SM 3.5+ might take some time
also i am not sure its as simple as changing one file in that case

if you can get a 780 ti for the same price then go for it
the 780 ti is much better than the 970 and the extra bandwidth should make up for the vram deficiency
but for me i want even more vram (8GB or so) which is something the 700 series doesn’t offer
(900 series will soon offer that so for me thats the go)

I don’t mind tinkering with bits so my path suits me

[Ian Mapleson]

Using a 780 means just adding some text to the ray trace text file. That’s rather
different to any more involved changes which may or may not allow a card to function
properly for all possible tasks which may try to use it.

Btw, there are 6GB 780s, why not use those?

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Curtis Ling]

like i said i haven’t found any shortfalls yet except cpu fallback and should be a last resort (laptop/non changable gpu etc)
(a laptop with a Kepler GTX 860m or 870/880 is much more expensive than a laptop with a gtx 850m or maxwell 860)
of course there shouldn’t be any problems as the gpu raytracing is called out and i don’t think adobe changed that part.

that said i am not a hacker or coder so i don’t know what the stuff that makes up the dll
and yes i am unsure of support in other programs hence i now recommend the 780/ti

the 900 series should only be considered when the extra horsepower (per dollar) significantly offsets the support uncertainty (that is a 8gb 980 or 980ti+ and whatnot or two 970’s)

ps: as for the 780 official status i know only added to the list makes it work
but in the eyes of adobe neither the 970 or the 780 is supported HOWEVER only the 780 has a supported ARCHITECTURE ATM

[Simon Gomes]

Hi everyone! I’m a motion designer who have to buy a new computer. Obviously i work a lot on After Effects.

I have searched a lot a good advice to choose the best and more faster graphic card for AE. I think i’ve found the right place to ask my question now^^

Which is for you the best graphic card i can choose in a budget between 250€ (300$) and 350€ (400$) (yes i’m european ^^)?

Thanks a lot 🙂

Simon

[Ian Mapleson]

If it has to be an all-new card, probably a GTX 770, or if you can find a deal,
a GTX 780. If you can get used cards instead, then look for two used GTX 580 3GB.

Don’t buy GTX 970/980 yet as they’re currently not properly supported.

Ian.

——–
SGI Guru

[Curtis Ling]

770/780/780ti you might find new and used ones in your budget on amazon (us?)

AND AS FOR THE 970/980 disregarding support they are not even in the price range (well with all the markups anyway)