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ADVICE on HUGE PROJECT
Hi I am woking on a Big-big corporate project with more than 18 timelines (secuences), 25 Bins with more than 700 clips and graphics in total, and I am scared of data or work loss.
Any advice of:
Should I close the Sequences, how do I prevent of not erase them by mistake?
Can I export-import the secuences and bins to another project?
Copy the project everyday to another disk? I am doing that btw.
Please any other advice on keeping a big project save. have to be ready by Sep 4.
All the best!!, DiegoPP CS4/vista 64
Diego
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15 Replies
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Yes to all questions.
There’s really no reason to leave all your sequences open unless you are actively working with them all at the same time. It’s only an opportunity for you to accidentally move something, click on something and delete it accidentally, etc…
I save my projects incrementally. I’ll work on Project01 for a while, then “save as” Project02, then Project03, etc… If something gets really messed up, you can go back in time and hopefully what got messed up is in it’s original state in one of your project versions.
You can export and import sequences (not bins) into other projects. You can open a project, copy a bin, close the project, open another project and hit “paste” and your bin will copy.
If all the elements in a bin are on a TIME LINE (a sequence), you can simply import the sequence into another project. (Import>select project>select sequence). It would be nice if you could import bins, not just sequences, but that doesn’t seem to be an option (pay attention, Adobe!).
Because of this caveat, I create “Bin Timelines” for every bin that contain all elements of a bin in a sequence (on a time line).
As for backing up, you may want to explore RAID-5, RAID-1, or RAID-6 storage as well. It’s not a fail-safe, but it’s more redundant and there is less chance of losing data.
Project files are relatively small, so back them up daily to a remote location, be it just a thumb drive or to the “cloud.”
Hope this helps.
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Thanks Jonas, great advice… thanks.. man
BTW my PP crash ramdomly when doing Auto save…may you know why?… I am going to post this topic too.. all the best!!
D.Diego
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Random crashes like that during an auto-save suggests RAM issues.
Do you have the maximum amount of RAM you can have for the application? (Win 32-bit is 3.5 G but most computers make you put in 4G, Win 64 — Vista Windows 7 and XP-64 — is as much as you can cram into the box.)
Is your C: drive low in fragmentation and high in free space?
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
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I have a 6gig of Ram, my disks are less than half and my raid too, I see is a very common problem around, I do not know what to do..apart from that all runs beautiful…
6GIG ram, Vista 64/iCore 7 965, 1 500gig system disk – 1 500gig Media/Project HD and 1 raid 2T for video, all defrag etc.
Maybe try making the project in the RAID?…or system Drive?…All the best!! Diego
Diego
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3faYro5MjQ
Not sure if the video link will help out on the storage and RAID issues or not.
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Great video. I just love how Mr. Creepy talks about how he can edit Miss West Virginia or Miss California (and later talent contests) programs on his system. I doubt that he’d get near any of these pagents because the women would find him too creepy.
As to his Mac Bashing. That is 90% of his message. A computer is a tool. You buy a Mac because you want to invest in Apple’s professional edit system (Final Cut Studio). You also invest in a Mac because Apple does do WYSIWYG on their displays and Windows doesn’t (I don’t think that Red Hat Linux does, as well).
He’s whining about how it’s impossible to install hard drives on a Mac. For internal drives, it took me 2 minutes to install three 1.5T SATA drives on my Mac Pro and it will take a fourth. While they are not as easily removed as his front-loading ones, I would argue that Real Men use Fibre Channel SAS disk arrays, which they place in another room (or ventilated closet) so they don’t have to listen to the array.
Oh, and he cannot spell “swappable.”
If you are doing large projects, you need an external array. There are real reasons why Avids sell with external arrays and they’re all good ones. This is not to say that one ought to compare Adobe’s Premiere with an Avid Media Composer, Symphony or DS, but these systems are certainly capable of large projects with multiple streams of HD throughput in real time with no dropped frames.
And system integrators who sell Final Cut systems also specify proven external RAID arrays for editing, usually with 6, 12 and 24 drives in an array. Depending on the stripe, you will absolutely get reliable throughput that is faster than any internal array you can set up — even if you can swap out a drive and boot Linux or Windoze 95.
I find Mr. Creepy there to be more amusing than anything else. I hope he likes the sound of the fans trying desperately to keep up with the heat generated in his packed computer case.
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
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Mark Hollis,
You are a complete ass. Everything you said is pure BS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj0JoFxoOyo
Watch this video. You might like the bikini girl you perveted douche bag.
WYSIWYG can be done geat using Vegas, Premiere and many other PC programs as you can see. I can get a Decklink card or make use of the Video card’s HDMI port to view my edits on an NTSC monitor.
I am hip to the Avid RAID systems. I used to edit on a Media Composer. For the average freelance artist my system works great and you know it. The external RAID systems would be nice but most freelance FCP editors and Premiere editors do not even have an NTSC monitor let alone invest in an external RAID system.
Please post a video of your great editing system. I want to see it and I think others might as well. I expect to see an external RAID and an NTSC monitor for client previews. We can all speak about what ILM and Pixar use but most of us here have a limited budget.
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Is it possible for. A project to get large to a point that you can’t import anymore images? It seems like that is happening to one of my projects.
If this truly is the case, is it possible to combine several projects? Import other sequences?
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It is likely possible.
When you ask if you can combine projects… I assume you mean down the road if you want to put things back together? The answer is yes. I would suggest breaking up your project now. When you’re done editing, use “Remove Unused” before you put everything back together to keep the size of the project down.
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They r seperated now. I may need every bit of the footage because it Is a time lapse project.
Will it work? Any advice?
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