advice needed 60fps video

[John Rofrano]

You could render the 60p iPhone 6 video file to Sony MXF 30p. Make sure that you Disable Resample on all events before you do that. Vegas Pro will then simply drop every other frame and make it 30p. That will be very easy to edit.

The Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 was launched in 2007. You might consider it time for a computer upgrade if you plan on editing new formats like iPhone 6 video. I’d say after 8 years that you got your money’s worth out of it. 😉

~jr

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[Joe Tavola]

For sure John, definitely time to upgrade! What can you recommend as far as cpu model?

Will the Sony format be MP4? Because it would have to play through Apple TV.

Anything I can do for editing these 60fps clips though smoother? Maybe convert them first to 30fps (batch convert)? I know it’s time consuming but will that be better for my system and Vegas to handle these files for editing? Will I lose any quality in doing so?

[John Rofrano]

[Joe Tavola] “What can you recommend as far as cpu model?”

I’ve always had good luck with the VideoGuys DIY builds. Their DIY 11 build is using the Intel 4790k i7 Quad-Core. Personally, I would go for the Hex Core which is what I built 3 years ago but if you are on a budget, the new Haswell Quad Cores are really nice.

[Joe Tavola] “Will the Sony format be MP4? Because it would have to play through Apple TV. “

No, you missed my point. You were complain that you couldn’t edit the footage smoothly so I recommended that you transcode it to Sony MXF and edit with that. This has nothing to do with rendering the final output to Apple TV which should be done using MainConcept AVC with either one of the Apple or Internet templates.

[Joe Tavola] “Anything I can do for editing these 60fps clips though smoother? Maybe convert them first to 30fps (batch convert)?”

I’m sorry I was clearer. That’s exactly what I was suggesting. Convert them to Sony MXF for editing.

[Joe Tavola] “Will I lose any quality in doing so?”

Not that you will see. Sony HD422 MXF has a much higher bitrate than your source iPhone files. There won’t be any noticeable quality loss.

~jr

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[Joe Tavola]

Ah ok got it .. so i tried a small clip rendered to Sony mxf format using template HD422 1920×1080 60i 50Mbps (customize template 29.970 framerate) and i gotta tell you that file is now smoooooth as butter in Vegas editing. So do i need a new PC, hehehehe… i know i do, but what a difference it made, and you’re right zero quality loss i see. THANKS!

It’s just going to be very time consuming as i have close to 3hrs of 60 fps mov footage to convert. Took me 10 min for 30 sec clip. Is Sony Vegas the only way to do this? Will Adobe Media Encoder output to mxf? I can do a batch convert in that.

As for the CPU, will the integrated HD4600 (on i7 4970) graphics be sufficient or should i be getting a discrete video card for Vegas? AMD/Nvidia recommendation?

[John Rofrano]

[Joe Tavola] “so i tried a small clip rendered to Sony mxf format using template HD422 1920×1080 60i 50Mbps (customize template 29.970 framerate) and i gotta tell you that file is now smoooooth as butter in Vegas editing.”

Yea, Vegas Pro loves Sony MXF format. Very smooth editing experience indeed.

[Joe Tavola] “It’s just going to be very time consuming as i have close to 3hrs of 60 fps mov footage to convert. Took me 10 min for 30 sec clip. Is Sony Vegas the only way to do this? Will Adobe Media Encoder output to mxf? I can do a batch convert in that. “

I don’t believe that Adobe Media Encoder can create a Sony MXF file. You could place all of the files on the timeline, place named regions around each of them, and use the Batch Render script with the Regions option to batch render them overnight to separate files.

[Joe Tavola] “As for the CPU, will the integrated HD4600 (on i7 4970) graphics be sufficient or should i be getting a discrete video card for Vegas? AMD/Nvidia recommendation?”

Vegas Pro will take advantage of the HD4xxx chips. I don’t know if they perform as good as a discrete card because I’ve never owned a computer that used that chipset. For discrete cards get an AMD R9 29x series. Stay away from NVIDIA for Vegas Pro.

~jr

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[Joe Tavola]

Thanks again John for the tip on the batch render feature.

Now I’ve dabbled with After Effects and that apparently loves Nvidia (with CUDA) so tough choice there on the discrete card knowing that Vegas doesn’t like it. Guess I’ll try just with the integrated graphics first before buying a discrete card.

[John Rofrano]

Yea, Adobe chose to use the proprietary CUDA and Sony decided to support the OpenCL standard. It’s unfortunate but I think Adobe has been making changes to support OpenCL better which would favor AMD cards. Clearly Apple has chosen AMD for their new Mac Pro so if Adobe wants to run well on a Mac Pro they need to support OpenCL and not CUDA.

I believe that only ray-tracing in After Effects requires CUDA so unless you are doing ray-tracing, you might not have an issue with AE.

~jr

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[Joe Tavola]

Good to know. Most if not all my final renders will be Mainconcept MP4 (Apple TV) will using the integrated graphics have any ill effects with rendering?

I currently have an Ati Radeon 4870 1Gb would that be better then the HD 4600?

[John Rofrano]

[Joe Tavola] “will using the integrated graphics have any ill effects with rendering? “

No more than using a discrete card will. In general there have been times when rendering gets messed up and turning off the GPU fixes it so no one can say how GPU acceleration will affect a render, but from a quality standpoint there should be no difference.

[Joe Tavola] “I currently have an Ati Radeon 4870 1Gb would that be better then the HD 4600?”

The ATI Radeon 4870 will probably be faster.

~jr

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[Joe Tavola]

Thanks John you have been a great help to say the least!