advice needed 60fps video

[Joe Tavola]

Converting the IPhone footage to HDCAM-SR-Lite, Cineform-LOW, or even AVC-I(HD 60P profile) would be the way to edit that material in Vegas.

With my new rig (i7 4970K, Asus z97-A, 16GB Gskill Ripjaws, R9 380 4Gb) I’ll still have to convert my iPhone 6S footage to edit in Vegas? Or do you mean with my current setup? I hope it’s the latter that you’re referring to!?

[Aaron Star]

If you are not having problems editing your footage from the phone, then there is nothing to do to work with it. Most of the issues I have seen people having with that footage has to do more with QuickTime issues. Converting to an .mxf container/codec can help with playback smoothness and clip quantity.

Running tests on your own system is the only way to see any benefits. Create a test project convert some clips, do some cross fades, add some plugins you use typically and look for the difference in frame rate drops or lack there of. Enable 32-bit video levels mode and check the difference between the converted clips and the camera format. Keep in mind that only the 1st instance of Vegas will use the GPU.

[John Rofrano]

[Aaron Star] “Most of the issues I have seen people having with that footage has to do more with QuickTime issues. Converting to an .mxf container/codec can help with playback smoothness and clip quantity.”

+1

Here’s the bottom line:

Vegas Pro doesn’t work well with QuickTime footage. If you want to shoot with a camera that creates QuickTimes files whether it be an iPhone or Ninja or whatever… do yourself a favor and buy a Mac and edit with Final Cut Pro X. I’m very serious about this! My iPhone 6 QuickTime files at 240fps edit like butter on my MacBook Pro laptop with FCP X. No issues at all. If you want to use a Vegas Pro on a PC, then be prepared to convert your QuickTime files to something that a Vegas Pro can handle. It’s as simple as that.

iPhone + Mac = happy editing

iPhone + PC = wasted days on forums being non-productive wondering why nothing works

It’s your choice how you want to spend you time. Seriously… look back at this thread… you’ve asked about formats because Vegas can’t handle 60p QuickTime files… then we had a lengthy discussion about what video cards to buy… NONE of this would have been needed if you bought a Mac! The video card that comes with a Mac is the same video card the Final Cut Pro X developers use. There is never any issues with what parts to buy like PC users have to deal with. This thread started 19 days ago. if you had a Mac with FCP X you’d be editing your iPhone footage happily for 19 days instead of anguishing over what to do. Think about it! 😉

Note: I don’t make it a habit of telling people what platform to use. if you want to use a PC or Mac that’s your personal choice… but if you want to shoot Apple Quicktime formats and then complain that you have to transcode the files to use them on a PC… you should seriously reconsider your platform choice. Sony Vegas Pro works great with Sony cameras that shoot Sony formats. QuickTime is NOT one of them!

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Aaron Star]

I agree with John on the Apple hardware choice. The PC supports way more hardware than MAC, and PC manufactures sell good deals for them and not the end user. If people bought the best PC hardware, they would have a lot less problems. People unfortunately by hardware based on cost and not the best tool for the job. Once a PC system is built DIY all the individual profit margins add up and exceed the volume discount apple offers on their hardware. A top of the line PC/PC workstation will computationally outperform a MAC Pro, this largely due to how infrequently Apple releases new hardware configuration. For example the as of this writing Apple does not support the AMD Fury-x, nor have any DDR4 or skylake offerings. The “Trash Can” is looking pretty weak right now, since it has not been keeping up with the times.

[Joe Tavola]

Thanks for the advice but I’ll stick to PC and my new build. Whether it’s converting files or trying out Premiere for editing QuickTime it’s still less $$$ and easier learning curve then going Mac (Final Cut) just because I have an iPhone. When I started this thread I didn’t know if it was Vegas or my PC that couldn’t handle the iPhone mov files. Now we are saying regardless if you have super PC if you use iPhone Vegas won’t cut it. I’ll make it work but I get what you’re saying don’t get me wrong. I don’t do this professionally and I love what PC offers (software wise, gaming, etc..) as opposed to Mac.

[John Rofrano]

I can’t argue with you about the PC being the best platform for gaming. It certainly is. Premiere is another option but you have to be willing to pay monthly subscription fee whether you use it or not that month so it has it’s own problems with cost. Good luck in whatever method you choose.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com