Adobe sees 45% sales growth for Mac video tools after Final Cut Pro X exodus

[Tim Wilson]

[Chris Harlan] “Hey, Bob, at least Adobe’s people are willing to talk about their product. Wouldn’t it just be WILD if Apple were to do something similar. I mean, just for kicks.”

For the record, we at the COW take a very dim view of one vendor talking smack in another vendor’s forum. Where needed, we react strongly and quickly.

That’s definitely not been the case with Dennis. He responds when something about Adobe comes up, as he has done hundreds of times in many COW forums over the years.

Avid folks have been posting in these threads too. In every case, we’ve seen their responses to be professional and on topic.

Indeed, Adobe and Avid have always had folks posting in the COW quite regularly, in some cases with thousands of posts under their belts. They’re welcome…as of course people from Apple have been.

And indeed, Apple folks have posted here now and again. In at least one case that I remember, the Apple guy even included his apple.com email address, and invited a poster to contact him directly for help.

So anyway, we’re doing our best to monitor everything that’s happening here, and I’m certainly not meaning to kick up a fuss by saying this, but from our perspective, it’s working out about like it should: somebody brings up something about a company, and somebody from that company steps in to answer.

Tim, for ONCE speaking on behalf of the COW

[Bob Tompkins]

The Apple people have too much class to propagandize on a Premiere discussion forum thats for sure.

[Darren Kelly]

I did the switch to PC, and the Production Premium Bundle this week.

My reason for switching to PC….. $$$

The PC I built cost me $1,187.00 – fully decked out.

AMD 6 Core 2.7GHZ processor
8GB RAM
1.5TB System drive
DVD burner
GeForce GTX 570
SATA III interface card
2X 3TB SATA III hard drives – striped as a raid
1 external SATA port (I have a 4TB G-Raid that I will port over when I am finished my current project – Monday
I had a FW Blu-Ray Deck lying around, so I put that in the extra optical bay

I already had 2 X 23″ – 1920X1080 Acer Monitors, they are plugged in now.

In addition, I cross graded my Mac CS4 Production Premium. I would have upgraded anyway as I wanted PS5.5 and AE 5.5 anyway.

Here’s the good news. 8 layers of 1080 in RT, with drop shadows, basic 3D, motion. 4 HD video and 4 graphic layers.

My Mac is a 27 inch 8 core iMac, so if I had to make the switch to a MacPro of similar power, I would estimate my cost being significantly higher. Say $3K for the basic Macpro with 8GB of RAM. Then add the other items I added for about $1,200 and my total would have been $4,000( The Mac Nvidia cards are much more costly. they can be $1K on their own).

You could buy 4 systems the way I did it for the price of the Mac, and the performance would have been
less due to the video card not having as many cores, and the general Mac architecture.

I must say, windows and PC’s have come a long way since I departed in 1999. This box is quiet, easier to move that a loaded MacPro (Lighter). It seems just about as stable, although I just started playing with it.

BTW, the stabilizer effect is worth all that and more. I did a Helicopter shoot on a windy day, and this feature alone improved my shot!

Sorry Apple. It was fun. I still intend to use it for the web, emails and my iOs devices, but editing has come to an end.

DBK

[Darren Kelly]

“That statement wouldn’t be accurate at all”

I used Premiere Pro between 1996 and 1999, and sold my wares for $1,000,000.

I don’t know of a pro editor who does not have some experience with Premiere. With it’s tight integration with After Effects, Photoshop and media encoder….. You can’t beat this.

The Pros are coming! The Pro’s are Coming!

DBK

[Jorden Mosley]

This news is definitely encouraging for me as Pr user (former FCP user). With the release of FCPX, the studio I intern at made the switch from FCP to Pr and I absolutely love the program. I know Avid as well, but I have a preference for Premiere for my workflow and for the computer that work with.

But I always had a concern that an editor that worked in Premiere wouldn’t be valued much in the film, broadcast, or corporate fields. Hopefully this is indicator that Premiere will be used more by various types of studios. Otherwise I’m gonna have to spend a fortune to optimize my computer for Avid (which seems to be less forgiving on what hardware I use lol.)

[Gary Huff]

[Bob Tompkins]The Apple people have too much class to propagandize on a Premiere discussion forum thats for sure.

Bob, you’ve been politely asked to stop trolling once before. Please take it to heart.

Thanks.

[Dennis Radeke]

[Tim Wilson] “That’s definitely not been the case with Dennis. He responds when something about Adobe comes up, as he has done hundreds of times in many COW forums over the years.”

Ahh, I’m blushing. Thanks Tim.

To all – I do monitor these forums almost daily (except when I’m traveling) and I’m passionate and competitive, I will always try to keep everything above board and classy. Tim’s right, I generally keep my comments and responses confined to Adobe type questions or ones of workflow. Some things I completely steer clear of (like dissecting who really has the most seats of NLE’s installed)… 😉

Dennis