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Adobe Security breach- 2.9 million user accounts affected.
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[Mitch Ives] “Do you work there? That’s old school business thinking. Things have changed.”
No, I don’t. But if you say so. I just feel that believing your info is ever truly safe or secret is being unrealistic. The only safety – sort of – is in the anonymity of the sheer mass of info. So control your purchases with limited, controllable, disposable CCs.
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[Oliver Peters] “No, I don’t. But if you say so. I just feel that believing your info is ever truly safe or secret is being unrealistic. The only safety – sort of – is in the anonymity of the sheer mass of info. So control your purchases with limited, controllable, disposable CCs.”
Well said. It seems you and Bill agree on that, and I think I’m convinced to join you…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Mitch Ives] “If you’re happy with blanket statements, without any proof or assurances, run with with it. I wish you all the success in the world, and truly hope you are right. I’d like to be wrong this time. Still, why is it that I have a sinking feeling… oh, that’s the voice of experience I hear in my head…”
Fair enough, Mitch. You understandably want to eliminate every risk you can. I can’t argue with that — but speaking for myself, I don’t think I can realistically eliminate all these risks from my business, so I ultimately choose to trust that the companies I do business with will do what they say.
I’m a long-term Adobe customer, too, and I’ve been on Creative Cloud since the CS6 cycle. It’s been flawless for me so far. Honestly, I am more worried about severe weather knocking out my power for a few days than I am about losing time to a Creative Cloud activation problem.
I am not trying to argue with you or say that you’re wrong. I just think that the risk levels here are subjective and that while Adobe has taken steps like the grace period to try to mitigate them, we must each decide what we can tolerate.
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[Walter Soyka] ” I am more worried about severe weather knocking out my power for a few days than I am about losing time to a Creative Cloud activation problem.”
This picture, is then accurate for what it might look like if people stole your Adobes’s *(pronounced Adobes Is) near you:
Also, is the source code more valuable or the account info?
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Here’s an interesting “what if” based on that descriptions in that article. Let’s say the customer CC theft was simply a by-product or a smoke screen. That the real target was source code. Why? Well one possibility is to inject a vulnerability into a version that would then be sold as pirated software. Pirated by users – precisely because of avoidance of the Cloud subscription model. Now the hackers effectively have placed a back door into every computer running the counterfeit software. Hmm…
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[Oliver Peters] “That the real target was source code. Why? Well one possibility is to inject a vulnerability into a version that would then be sold as pirated software. Pirated by users – precisely because of avoidance of the Cloud subscription model. Now the hackers effectively have placed a back door into every computer running the counterfeit software. Hmm…”
Agree that the source code is a pretty big deal and could lead to all sorts of mischief.
If hackers really want to mess with Adobe, another malware target is the authentication server. Imagine a virus that reverts CC software to trial mode and marks it expired. Totally possible and totally the kind of thing hackers do for lulz.
Not saying it will happen, but just as much a concern as compromised passwords and credit card info. Source code gives hackers everything they need to use Adobe’s DRM as a weapon.
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[Mitch Ives] “You’d be wrong about that too. I have all of that set up manually, with no auto renews. I also don’t allow them to keep the info on file. I handle every renewal manually, and usually by phone. That’s becoming a requirement for safe business practices now. “
I’ll just come out and say it. In this day and age, what’s so horrible about your CC number getting stolen? I’ve had my CC number stolen 3 times in 4 years by CC skimmers (no cyber-theft involved) and each time the bank alerts me to the suspicious charges (usually via text), I confirm they are fraudulent (so I’m not on the hook for them), my CC is frozen and I get a new card the next day via FedEx. Fine, steal my CC number. No skin off my nose (other than having to re-do all my auto renewals).
What I’m more worried about is someone taking over my email account or getting their hands on things that will allow them to easily steal my identity. A massive, global corporation I used to work for had their HR servers hacked. Now *that’s* a truck load of info that can royally screw up someone’s life.
Mitch, I’m sure your bank has all your info sitting on a Internet attached server somewhere. 😉
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[Walter Soyka] “I am not trying to argue with you or say that you’re wrong. I just think that the risk levels here are subjective and that while Adobe has taken steps like the grace period to try to mitigate them, we must each decide what we can tolerate.”
Absolutely agree.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Andrew Kimery] “I’ll just come out and say it. In this day and age, what’s so horrible about your CC number getting stolen? I’ve had my CC number stolen 3 times in 4 years by CC skimmers (no cyber-theft involved) and each time the bank alerts me to the suspicious charges (usually via text), I confirm they are fraudulent (so I’m not on the hook for them), my CC is frozen and I get a new card the next day via FedEx. Fine, steal my CC number. No skin off my nose (other than having to re-do all my auto renewals).
What I’m more worried about is someone taking over my email account or getting their hands on things that will allow them to easily steal my identity. A massive, global corporation I used to work for had their HR servers hacked. Now *that’s* a truck load of info that can royally screw up someone’s life.
Mitch, I’m sure your bank has all your info sitting on a Internet attached server somewhere. ;)”
I’ve had the same issue but only with CapitalOne. I usually find out after the card doesn’t work. I was traveling once, that was a pain. Sounds like you get a replacement a bit quicker than most of us.
Agreed, the identity thing is the real serious part.
The info will always be somewhere, which is why the best you can do is to eliminate having it anywhere that you can avoid. Minimizing risk is the best you can achieve… there are no guarantees. I still use cash because cash doesn’t report everything you do and it keeps your Inbox and mailbox a bit less crowded. Soon this government will probably try to discourage that…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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This has nothing to do with India.
There are stupid people everywhere. I live and work in India and often visit the US. I haven’t still been able to resolve some issue with my AT&T phone and Verizon phone. And I have had to deal with stores in the US with executives who just bumble along with no clear solution to my issues.
I don’t blame the US for that. I simply blame some stupid people and stupid policies that these companies use, for billing.
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Neil Sadwelkar
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FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
Mumbai India
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