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  • Herb Sevush

    January 17, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Well, no, but I was fabricated directly from the ilk. So that, at least, must account for something??”

    Only if you believe that the sins of the father should be visited upon the son. Otherwise, just listen to a little Firesign Theatre first hand, bong is optional (although recommended.)

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 17, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    [Herb Sevush] “Only if you believe that the sins of the father should be visited upon the son. “

    I guess then we would have to agree how mom got pre go in the first place, and by whom.

    It would also depend on your world view of sin.

    [Herb Sevush] “Otherwise, just listen to a little Firesign Theatre first hand,”

    Will do!

  • David Lawrence

    January 18, 2014 at 5:35 am

    Love FST!

    “I Think We’re All Bozos on This Bus” is must listening for anyone who wants to truly understand The Future.

    Enjoy!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmWFrMq3qNY

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  • Gary Huff

    January 18, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “As long as I use their software I’ll continue to pay for it. Everyone should, and especially anyone who’s making money off it’s back.”

    But if Adobe is indentured slavery and monopoly and feudal lordship, why should they? Shouldn’t you pirate it and strike a blow for freedom?

  • Steve Connor

    January 18, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    [Gary Huff] “But if Adobe is indentured slavery and monopoly and feudal lordship, why should they? Shouldn’t you pirate it and strike a blow for freedom?”

    Has anyone suggested that?

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Herb Sevush

    January 18, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Bozos is their masterpiece.

    “Consternation turned to elucidation:
    If you push something hard enough it will fall over: Fudd’s first law of opposition.
    Followed by Testicles Deviant to the first law:
    If it goes in, it must come out.”

    I believe all of western science comes from these first principals.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Marcus Moore

    January 19, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    I don’t think you can draw any kind of realistic parallel between curtailing someone’s personal freedoms and a company’s business model.

    If you’re making a living wage off Adobe’s products, $50 a month for your core software shouldn’t be breaking anyone’s bank- especially if you’re heavily invested in the Adobe ecosystem.

    For someone like me, who primarily uses FCPX and Motion, but who does use Photoshop, and to a very limited extent AE, Illustrator, and Acrobat- the value proposition is a little dodgier; and I’ve told Adobe reps this. I’d like to see more flexible pricing, but I’m not sure it’s worthwhile for them.

    I see Adobe’s new model as akin to Cable providers- It works good if you only use ONE application (and can just pay $19.99), and works great if you’re a company that uses products across the entire CC lineup in all the different disciplines, but for those that just use a couple- Adobe is basically selling you a bundle of stuff you’re probably not going to use.

    I can justify it- but the monthly cost WILL keep me looking at where products like Pixelmator are at, and what sort of value they can provide.

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