Adding Audio after editing

[David Roth weiss]

There are several ways to add only the two audio tracks from a video clip with four tracks of audio. Have you tried locking the tracks you want to keep? Probably not, right? Why don\\\’t you check out the tiny padlocks on the left side of the timeline to see exactly what they do. That\\\’s one solution.

You could also check out the FCP manual for other solutions located right there in the same part of the FCP interface.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[Shane Ross]

David, I think he means that he added the two additional audio tracks to the QUICKTIME FILES themselves, but can’t relink to them because they have more audio tracks than the original…thus it won’t want to link.

Now you see the importance of doing things right THE FIRST TIME. That there is a proper way to do things, and skipping a step or two to save time does anything BUT save time. There is a process for this, there are steps you need to take in a certain order for a reason. Don’t follow that order and you will mess things up more than you can think. You think that you can just add the audio later with the simple click of a button. The fact is that the fix will take a lot longer than if you had done things right in the first place. This means connecting the audio, and manually going through the cut, shot by shot, and manually replacing the footage.

COnsider this a big lesson learned.

Shane

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[David Roth weiss]

Yep Shane, I wasn’t sure when I first read this and I’m still not sure exactly what he wanted to achieve. It seemed to me that he might be saying that he figured out how to add audio tracks 3&4 to his video, and that now he’s matchframing, and just wants to cut in the new audio tracks.

Under any circumstance, I do agree with you that doing the grunt work before starting the creative work is always the way to go.

David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[Andreas Isking]

Thanks for your answers,

I know my workflow wasn’t the right one and I definitely learned a lesson..
Let me just explain the problem again:
The film was shot by some students, so they had a lot of takes for each scene (sometimes over 10).
They gave me the footage split up into different *.mov clips take by take with camera audio. And they also gave me extra audio files, recorded externally, but not linked to the video files. I thought I’d save a lot of time if I wouldn’t link the audio files to every single video file in advance, because there were so many of them and I’d use only one or two takes of every scene.
I really thought this wouldn’t be any problem afterwards. Just open the clips that I used in the timeline, go to the slate clap, mark the in point, open the audio file, mark the in point, mix them together and replace the clip in the timeline by the new one. But unfortunately it is a problem (Is there really no way to copy in and out markers from one clip to another clip of the exact same length?? I can’t believe that..).

Anyway, thanks again for your answers. Maybe my description is not so good, as I’m not a native english speaker. Sorry for that.

Cheers

[Michael Gissing]

Check out Pluraleyes software. It make syncing double system to a decent camera sound fast and automated. Although it is used to sync rushes, you might be able to use it to rematch the edited audio.

[Shane Ross]

[Andreas Isking] “Just open the clips that I used in the timeline, go to the slate clap, mark the in point, open the audio file, mark the in point, mix them together and replace the clip in the timeline by the new one.”

How? Just how would that work? Replace them how? Things don’t just magically happen, you have to tell the system what to do. Marking IN on the clip, and then IN on the audio file and mixing them together is called MERGE CLIPS. Once you do that, you have a clip with both the audio from the camera, and the new audio. Once you have that, then you have to MANUALLY go through the cut, find the in points for each clip, load the MERGED CLIP into the Viewer, mark IN at the same point, then replace. For each and every clip. Basically rebuild the sequence.

[Andreas Isking] “But unfortunately it is a problem (Is there really no way to copy in and out markers from one clip to another clip of the exact same length?? I can’t believe that..). “

Believe it. There isn’t one NLE that just magically replaces footage. And since the MERGE CLIP command doesn’t make new media, you can’t use this great FCP RECONNECT software that does cool things. You are left manually synching up every take used in the cut, and then manually replacing each and every clip in the timeline.

Shane

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[Andreas Isking]

“Once you do that, you have a clip with both the audio from the camera, and the new audio. Once you have that, then you have to MANUALLY go through the cut, find the in points for each clip, load the MERGED CLIP into the Viewer, mark IN at the same point, then replace.”

Yep, that’s what I’m gonna do now. But still, this will probably be faster than connecting the audio to each scene that was shot.
I didn’t know that it was called ‘merge clips’ as I don’t have the English version.

Thanks for your time Shane!

Andy

[Samuel Enblom]

I’m usually working with that workflow not finding it too difficult to synkronize with my own eyes. If you find it to demanding or time-consuming I would suggest either the plural eyes plugin or maybe making the clips at multiclips?

If you select the wanted video and audio file in your FCP-browser you can make them a multiclip and select audio from the audio-channel and video from your video channel!

Let me know how it works!