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  • A novice scratches head over working between premiere and after effects

    Posted by William Harper on October 4, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Hello there everyone,
    Excuse me as I suspect this may be an easy question to answer, or may simply be something that’s impossible to do, but I’ve looked at all kinds of tutorials and forums and not quite found the answer to my problem.

    I am making a diy music video for my band and have brought all the clips in to premiere to trim them down, get them synced with the music and do basic fade out and fade in. So there they stand, all neatly to attention in the timeline. Set in Points done, bits slowed down, bits sped up.

    I now want to use what I’ve learned from various tutorials to fiddle with certain scenes in after effects. So ideally I want to grab a section as it is in Premiere’s timeline, pop it in After Effects, mess around with it, and have it update in Premiere with the fiddling I did with it. Then do different fiddling with another bit.

    Is this possible? Or will I have to start again, putting the effects on the clips first in AE before I start trying to place them together in Premiere?

    Also, to stop my pathetic stabbings in the dark, could anyone recommend a good overall tutorial for the putting together of a short sequence of scenes with the two programs? I’ve found great ones on aspects of both but nothing that gives that overall picture.

    Many thanks for any help you can give!

    Mark Hollis replied 16 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Richard Windsor

    October 5, 2009 at 3:15 am

    You can import AE projects into Premiere and update them in real time. As far as I know there is no direct way to export the video from premiere to AE. Just import he video into AE, fiddle with it, and then import your projects into Premiere.

  • William Harper

    October 5, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Many thanks. I feared that was the case. Boy, I wish Adobe would make their two most linked products work closer together.

  • Mark Hollis

    October 5, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    William, I’m doing this all of the time.

    AE can natively import your entire Premiere Pro sequence. If you wish to save out several short sequences (for effects), build them first in Premiere Pro and get your sound correct. Once you have that together, import that sequence into AE. AE will let you import the project and then pick the sequence.

    That will create an AE composition with all of the necessary files imported. You’ll also have audio that you will be able to scrub through and “preview” in AE if you need to time certain effects to sound or beat.

    When you are finished compositing, simply make a movie (sans sound) in After Effects and import that into Premiere Pro. I, then, create a new video layer on top of the layers I have in Premiere Pro with the AE material, but you can outright replace if that is what you want to do. Your sound will remain where it is, as you didn’t export sound from AE (Premiere’s better for setting up your audio anyway).

    If you double-click on the AE composition in Premiere Pro, you can open up AE to re-edit the material (though having both applications open at the same time may cause some systems with not enough RAM to become really slow).

    What if there were no hypothetical questions?

  • Tracy Peterson

    October 8, 2009 at 11:12 am

    If you have the pro suite, you can use dynamic link to export from premiere into AE and have it automatically update.

    You just select the item you want to send to AE and “replace with AE composition” even more awesome, if AE is already open it will put the comp into the current file.

    It will even remember your edit points for you. It has been a million times useful for me. So far, however, it doesn’t play back very well in real time, so i tend to export a final and put it in place as a native format rather than the dynamic link when I am done with my edits.

    Tracy Peterson
    http://www.onetwomany.com

  • Mark Hollis

    October 9, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Well that doesn’t work for me as it’s not an option. But that is not to say it’s not an option for others.

    I’m using Premiere Pro 1.5 and AE 6.5 and I think they came before CS3 and CS4 where integration really started happening with the Adobe applications.

    I did have this demonstrated with CS3 by a friend of mine who works at a station in New Hampshire. And if that’s not working well for you, Tracy, it may be due to limitations in your current processor or RAM limitations.

    When/if Adobe upgrades Premiere and After Effects to 64-bit, lots of the RAM issues will automagically dissappear — assuming you have enough RAM in your system and are running a 64-bit OS, which means Leopard, Tiger or Snow Leopard (on the Mac, which can all run 64-bit Cocoa-only applications — Oh wait, that’s right Adobe uses Carbon, which was the transitional API that came out in 2000 to get people over the hurdle between System 9 and OS X and Apple told everyone it’s being deprecated.) or Vista or Windows 7 on the PC.

    What if there were no hypothetical questions?

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