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Activity Forums Business & Career Building A frank response to the posts ” I QUIT…. Working for nothing” and “” Worth It Anymore”??”

  • Walter Biscardi

    August 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    [Chen Wu Xin] “second and much more importantly
    HOW DARE YOU!!

    how dare you press someone for information which they explicitly communicated they deem private!!

    Wow, then I really have nothing further to discuss with you. You’re on a public forum making all sorts of suggestions as to what other people should do. But we can’t question what you do or ask for samples of your work.

    Have a nice day.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
    HD Post and Production
    Biscardi Creative Media

    “This American Land” – our new PBS Series.

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  • Bob Zelin

    August 19, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    boy, how did I miss out on a great fight like this !
    Awesome thread. I guess “you snooze, you lose”

    Bob Zelin

  • Walter Biscardi

    August 19, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    [Bob Zelin] “boy, how did I miss out on a great fight like this !”

    We are so disappointed in you right now Bob……… 🙂

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
    HD Post and Production
    Biscardi Creative Media

    “This American Land” – our new PBS Series.

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  • Tim Wilson

    August 19, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    [walter biscardi] “We are so disappointed in you right now Bob……… :)”

    My feeling is that it’s never too late to show up and cause trouble. Carry on, Bob.

    Tim Wilson
    Vice President, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW Magazine
    Twitter: timdoubleyou

    The typos here are most likely because I’m, a) typing this on my phone; and b) an idiot.

  • Chen Wu xin

    August 20, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    in my initial posts i had been nothing but polite, even after i was called cheapskate, and even my existence was questioned. (Which I found strange considering the relative non-troll nature of my thread starter)

    i then responded politely to a rather rude toned post asking to see my work.

    i stated my work is hosted on my website which contains personal info and I prefer not to post the URL on such a public forum. Jeez, there is even a disclaimer on the top of each forum warning of googles tracking policy.

    Walter, if you didn’t read that post of mine, and continued to ask for it , or simply did not respect a simple wish for some anonymity, then YOU ASKED FOR IT! You could have completely ignored it, and offered your own advice for creating on budget or you could have not posted anything at all. But instead you gave us a long list of places we can see your work (even though I previously mentioned I’m quite familiar with and respect you a great deal ). Good list of places we can see your company’s work and all, but useless for this thread.

    After Ned Miller politely responded to my, admittedly too-angry post, and because I understood that yes, my tone of the previous post was harsh, and negative and most of all non-constructive, I recanted – AND I realized I could post video directly on the cow, without the trouble of signing up for a YouTube etc account, i then posted a video here, along with as much info i could remember without pouring over excel files of invoices.

    so Walter if you have nothing more to say, that really REALLY sucks, because I’d rather read one post of yours than a hundred of mine, and I’m pretty sure that sentiment is echoed amongst all present.

    i signed up for a cow account JUST to create this thread to help a fellow poster. it wasn’t supposed to be anything other than a post meant to encourage another individual I felt was on par with me business wise, as not all of us here have large thriving expanding business. I’d venture to guess most of us don’t!

    Although there was some helpful posts in this thread, for the most part it was met with very little of anything constructive. (Including this rant)

    But I’ll state my original intent of this thread one more(third?) time: if you have to choose between:
    giving up a career for lack of funds
    or
    Continuing to create while pinching a penny.

    Pinch away, be frugal, be DIY, think outside the box. If you gotta hire interns today to be here tomorrow, phi beta Kappa!! To paraphrase Bob Zelin, who must have stated a million times, ”it can’t be done” to the perennial question where a poster asks can which computer monitor he/she can grade/colour on. ”It can’t be done, but get that panny industrial plasma for fraction of the price and it’ll work in pinch!”

    He never said, ”quit, change your job”

    Ps
    (Sorry for my spelling/grammar, I’m on my phone and in transit)

  • Ned Miller

    August 22, 2012 at 12:46 am

    Thank you Chen for proving you are really in the biz.

    Best regards,

    Ned

    Ned Miller
    Chicago Videographer
    http://www.nedmiller.com
    www,bizvideo.com

  • Chen Wu xin

    August 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    My pleasure AND my apologies for past offences!!

  • Mike Cohen

    September 24, 2012 at 2:41 am

    Late to the party here.

    What was the original post that Chen Wu Xin was responding to?

    As for the overall theme of the thread, I agree you get what you pay for. Although sometimes you can pay the appropriate amount and still get the occasional person who is asleep at the wheel. As a producer it is my job to manage the crew, to ensure that my client is getting what they are paying for. Usually the client is paying me and I am paying the crew so it is a double safety check to make sure you get what you think you are getting.

    Measure twice, cut once – you can apply this truism to any situation.

    Mike Cohen

  • Ned Miller

    September 24, 2012 at 2:43 am

    Too late Mike. The tempest in a teapot is over.

    Ned Miller
    Chicago Videographer
    http://www.nedmiller.com
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