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  • 720P to 480P downconversion high quality

    Posted by Chris Borjis on January 26, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Though I rarely get it in this format, I’ve always had a helluva
    time getting 720P downconverted to 480P and look nice.

    There are always high frequency moire artifacts and horizontal
    lines or angles are terribly aliased.

    Never have a problem with 1080i or 1080P.

    I’m about to try just downconverting from a Kona-LHE to
    another system to see how that works out. Though I tried
    this once before and it made no difference.

    anyone else found a good way to do the conversion besides a Kona3?

    compressor does no better a job no matter what it’s set for

    Sam Tollitt replied 17 years ago 5 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 26, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    The Kona LHe should do just a good of job as the Kona 3. I only had moire issues when it dealt with pictures made from line art. HD has more lines of resolution, so you don’t get the moire effect as easily as you do in SD.

    Shane

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  • Chris Borjis

    January 26, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    thanks for the quick response shane.

    I’m looking at it now and its MUCH better through the kona-lhe.

    moire is completely gone, though there is some subtle aliasing
    still happening but it is much better now.

    there has got to be a way to make this look flawless like
    a 1080 down convert through software.

  • Chris Poisson

    January 26, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Hey Chris,

    I’d try the Compressor route, and be patient enough to let the frame controls take their time and do their magic. Depending on your materials, try short tests with different settings first.

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 26, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Are you sure the sequence is set for a field order of “none”?

    I agree, use the hardware first, then use Compressor.

  • Chris Borjis

    January 26, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    I’m positive.
    24p mpeg2 encoding is locked at progressive, there is no
    option for interlacing. (in compressor)

    I let compressor do it’s thing over the week end.
    it took awhile to do, but looked absolutely lousy when
    I looked at the dvd this morning. I always resize at
    the highest quality setting no matter how long it takes.

    massive horizontal line aliasing and moire patterns abound.

    I was going to look at the de-interlace settings but its a progressive source,
    so that shouldn’t matter……..or does it?

    I’m looking at the DVD I made from letting the Kona Downconvert and its
    way better and fully acceptable quality to my client.

    Still though, compressor should be able to render it just as good
    somehow.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 26, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    I make ’24p’ DVDs from 720p24 material all the time.

    I never have aliasing problems.

    I export the HD material as a reference, bring that to Compressor and setup an MPEG2 preset.

    [Chris Borjis] “I was going to look at the de-interlace settings but its a progressive source,
    so that shouldn’t matter……..or does it? “

    It does if it’s set wrong.

  • Chris Borjis

    January 26, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    I’m doing the same process Jeremy.

    what do you have the de-interlace settings for if I may ask?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 27, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Same as source.

  • Chris Borjis

    January 27, 2009 at 6:07 am

    I have that setting as well but I think thats for
    field order not actual de-interlacing.

    I’ll try and post detailed settings at work tuesday,
    if it’s just one setting I have wrong I’m gonna pull some hair out.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 27, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    [Chris Borjis] “I have that setting as well but I think thats for
    field order not actual de-interlacing. “

    What’s the difference in this case? You need to set it for same as source if you are coming from a 24p timeline to a ’24p’ DVD.

    Deinterlace should be left at fast, as there’s no deinterlacing. I’d image ‘Same as source’ would turn off any deinterlacing.

    Jeremy

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