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  • 4:4:4 RGB footage not legal

    Posted by Eugene Lehnert on May 19, 2008 at 10:33 pm

    I am rendering out a text crawl in After Effects CS3. I am sourcing footage that I captured from a 4:4:4 HDCAMSR tape as 10-bit RGB. At the time of capture the footage was legal but after my render in After Effects the footage goes out of range. I am not adding any effects to the footage I am merely adding a text crawl. The footage does appear to be legal when I set the Kona card to output 4:2:2 though. I have a Kona 3.

    Eugene Lehnert replied 18 years ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Russell Lasson

    May 19, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Did you set up your color management for the project under project settings? And was the clip you captured interpreted with the correct color management in the interpretation menu?

    -Russ

    Russell Lasson
    Kaleidoscope Pictures
    Provo, UT

  • Rafael Amador

    May 20, 2008 at 2:07 am

    Are you adding a 100% white text?
    If so reduce the white.
    Are you exporting AJA RGB Full Range or SMPTE?

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Eugene Lehnert

    May 20, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    When I bring in the Quicktime files into After Effects they do not have a profile. I found that using the sRGB IEC1966-2.1 profile did not change the color of my video but that seems to only happen when the Kona card is outputting 4:2:2 video. I thought I should be using the Rec. 709 colorspace but that seems to cause a shift in my colors.

    I am outputting full range and I have my title crawl at 90%.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 20, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    I think that if you are going back to FC you should be exporting SMTPE instead of Full Range.
    60-940 are the legal Black and White points in 10b footage. same than 16-235 for 8b footage.
    Exporting as Full range you are bringing your whites at 1024.

    Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
    G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
    PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
    JVC DTV-17″
    SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
    ..and always a big mess on top of the table.

  • Eugene Lehnert

    May 20, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    I’ll give it a try again. I thought I did that to no avail but I will double check. I remember the footage coming out darker. The full range looks fine on the 4:2:2 output from Final Cut Pro.

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