24p final cut pro and monitor

[Russell Lasson]

[filmdirector] “When i view any part in QT it is worse during extreme movement.”

DV files look horrible in QT unless High Quality is selected.

Open the movie in QT
Select Window-Show Movie Properties
Select the Video Track
Select Visual Settings
In the lower right of the window select High Quality

This should play the DV files back right.

[filmdirector] ” The pull down it seems is 2:3:3:2. Now on the time line it looks interlaced.”

If there are any interlaced frames you either didn’t remove the pulldown or you removed it wrong. What is the timebase of you sequence? What is the frame rate of your clips?

Check out https://nattress.com/Free/freeFCP.htm

There is a pulldown detector that might help you out.

-Russ

[Gary Adcock]

[filmdirector] “I bought final cut pro 5.1 and captured my footage using the setting of 24p. The pull down it seems is 2:3:3:2.”

that is NOT 24p that is 24pA ( ie: advanced pulldown)

“Now on the time line it looks interlaced.”
your footage was shot in an interlaced format ( that would be SD) correct?

“when i connect a firewire to my NTSC camera, when moving on the timeline doesn’t move in the camera. when i pause on the timeline the spot at pause now shows as a freeze frame in the camera and since it is connected to a monitor the same.”

your prefs are not set correctly inside of FCP you need to reset using the Easy Setup for your format and then you should be able to get video out of your FW conntection.

“Do i have too many pulldown issues and what can i do to correct that as the whole film has been edited already.”

you have some really big issues here,
the straight ahead way to do this is:

create an EDL from your current timeline,
export it to Cinema tools,
convert that EDL from the 29.97 you cut at to 23.98
then recapture all of the footage at 23.98

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[Imeh Esen]

Thanks the QT issue was solved. The timeline issue is another problem.
my timebase is 24 and frame rate is 24fp.

I realize how messed up my capturing was.

I really don’t think I can recapture. I have about 26 tapes of footage and a deadline. I have already done about 70% of the work. So I assume i am screwed. What i have now isn’t 24p then although that’s what I shot at – dvx 100 24p not advanced.

I created a seperate sequence with 23.98 settings and if i copy and past to that sequence I can at least see it(movement) on the monitor after a lot of rendering but am I looking at 24p?

If I leave it the way it is without the new sequence will it be interlaced on a tv scene? I know TV is interlaced so probably not but what if it is to be blowned up to film, have i lost the 24p advantage?

You guys are a great help. Thanks.

[Mike Most — account bouncing, bad address]

Your problem is that you shot the piece in 24p “standard.” Final Cut cannot remove pulldown from 24p Standard. If you used the 24p capture setting, it assumed that you shot using 24p “Advanced,” which does use a 2:3:3:2 cadence. That’s why you have what you have. There are two ways of handling 24p standard material in Final Cut. One way is to capture and cut at 29.97, which would actually work just fine. The other way is to remove the “standard” pulldown using Cinema Tools, which would have given you the clean 24p clips you were expecting.

If you want to “fix” this, you don’t have to recapture everything. One solution would be to export a 24 frame EDL, convert it to a 30 frame EDL (using Cinema Tools), then recapture the original material – in 29.97 – as necessary. You might have to slip a few cuts here and there, but that should work. If you wish, you could recapture from the EDL, remove the pulldown in the newly captured clips using Cinema Tools (this is not that straightforward unless you capture everything beginning on a timecode that ends in either 0 or 5), then relink the 24p sequence to the resulting 24p clips, adjusting as necessary.

One would think that Apple would have solved this issue by now, especially when one considers that Avid has been able to remove “standard” pulldown on capture using software only for at least 2 years.

[Mike Most — account bouncing, bad address]

Please note that in the previous message, every time I referred to “24p” I’m actually talking about “23.98.” Personally, I don’t see any reason for one to use “hard 24” if one is working in the US, it just confuses things.

[Imeh Esen]

Thanks Mike. What happens if i leave it the way it is? It does look interlaced on computer but might not on TV. Also I can create a new sequence and past the finished product to it to view.

In order words does the footage with the extra pull down affect this in any way in the long run?

[Imeh Esen]

Guys is there any way for me to use the footage I already have on the timeline? is there a pulldown removal i can perform on what’s on the timeline instead of starting from scratch with original footage.

I have already colored corrected and am about to mix sound. I need a solution to what I already have.

[Gary Adcock]

[Mike Most] “One would think that Apple would have solved this issue by now, especially when one considers that Avid has been able to remove “standard” pulldown on capture using software only for at least 2 years”

I could not agree more Mike..

ga

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows