24p dv to dvd out of sync, help!!

[Captain Mench]

Gentle it is!!

Ok… let’s get some of the confusion out of the way first.

If it was 35mm film it wasn’t ‘reverse telecined’ to 24 it WOULD have been 24 fps. UNLESS it was 35mm laid off to tape??

That’s the first question.

What/how did you get the 35mm into FCP? Was it a file? Was it a tape?

Second question…

Pulldown is something that is ADDED TO 24 fps not taken away from 24. So, if indeed everything was 24 fps native (clips and sequence) there should be no pulldown to remove.

OK — so there’s all that.

Now — though it COULD be that everything was ingested wrong and you forced it into a sequence that you shouldn’t have and that might have caused some of the sync issues… but I doubt it. You would have noticed it while you were editing.

UNLESS… and here’s a big leap — unless you were viewing the video on one source and the audio on another. Like, if you were sending the video out via FW to an external monitor but still keeping the audio going thru the computer’s internal system and not sending IT TOO out via FW you’d get a little latency issue that if you weren’t aware of AND you were creating your own audio tracks to match to the video you were seeing… well, once you put them out to a single source (dvd) you’d have sync issues.

But I doubt that’s the answer too.

SO — question 3: Does the sync issue happen from the beginning to the end at the same rate? And can you tell exactly how much? Like 2-3 frames? Or 8-10 frames?

Again, what was the original ingest footage properties?

Mike

[Johnny Smith]

thanks for the reply!

35mm -> lab -> telecine -> dvcam offline master -> dvcam deck -> captured into fcp. Planning on doing a film out later so cutting at 24.

everything was captured the right way because i had a top pro assistant do it and supervise it. Now that i’m on my own it’s a little trickier.

both audio and video were on the dvcam tapes. so both were coming from the same source.

i think the problem was that i was incorrectly told that all DVDs play at 30 [or 29.whaterver], and once i changed the settings in compressor to 23.98 the sync issue i think is gone but hard to tell. I’m gonna burn a larger section and see. But now for some reason the fcp and compressor keep crashing all the time, very strange as i have a top of the line mac pro.

Anyhow the out of sync issue stays consistent and when the dvd is in 23.98 it is off by a few frames, i think. It’s very hard to tell it’s off but if you look very closely it’s off.