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  • 24p advanced film project (720X480 16:9) –need to export in Premiere & create bluray in ENCORE

    Posted by Trevor Styles on August 29, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Hello–I am in desperate need of help. I have an Adobe Premiere (CS 5.5) project I need to make a bluray from. I shot in 24p advanced (720X480 16:9) mode, and am using the 24 p timeline. I need to make a bluray, but none of my discs are turning out. What setting should I choose? I have also created an UNCOMPRESSED Microsoft AVI of the timeline if that will work better in Encore. So my question: Once my timeline is ready…how do I create my media file—what settings? MPG2? I want to create a great looking blu-ray disc in Encore, but my transcoding settings don’t seem to work. Anyone willing to do a “step by step” for a newbie? From the Adobe export to a “basic” play once Bluray with no menus. Thank you so much1! When i did my first Bluray, the picture looked pkay…UNLESS titles were on screen, and then they “jumped” or flickered. I have a feeling it has something to do with the “pulldown”. Once again…I just want a great looking 24p Bluray (720X480). Please HELLLLLLP!!!!

    Thanks so much!

    Trevor Styles replied 15 years ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Chris Tompkins

    August 29, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Uh,…You do know Bluray is for High Definition material right?

    Are you sure this is what you want with your SD material?

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Trevor Styles

    August 29, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Yes…I know that Bluray is for Hi-def material. I guess I was under the impression that Blu-ray supported up to 25 GB of material, as well as one of the formats being 720X480…so I thought I could create an image with as little compression as possible, and thus have a better image and sound then what a 4.7 GB DVD is capable of holding. I have had horrible luck using dual layer dvds, so i thought I would go with Blu-ray.

    Is this not the case? Can you not put standard definition footage onto a Blu ray?

  • Ann Bens

    August 29, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Yes you can put SD on a BD but it will be in BD format.
    If you want uncompressed avi then you will have to burn it as data on a BD, but you wont be able to play it.
    If your timeline is under 1.5 hours it will fit nicely on a DVD.
    If you still want a BD, export via dynamic link to Encore and let Encore do the math.
    Otherwise export to dv avi and import into Encore in a BD project. Encore will will transcode to BD format.
    SD on a BD will have the same picture quality as SD on a DVD.

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    Adobe Certified Expert Premiere Pro

  • Trevor Styles

    August 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    I am at 1 hour 50 minutes…so that’s why I was thinking of putting standard def footage onto a Blue ray disc (so i wouldn’t have to compress the dvd image further)…my DVD file reads at 5.5 GIGS…which is a bit much for a standard dvd. So I will try your suggestions–thank you so much! 2 other questions:

    1. The action safe area shows up ENTIRELY on my TV. How can I crop this area out? I shot this knowing I would have some “safe area” that wouldn’t show on the TV…but that doesn’t seem to be the case (microphone bobbing in and out slightly, as well as matte box flags)

    2. If I applied the “Magic bullet Instant HD” plugin to my footage, and rendered, then went to Blu ray—what would this do? Would it degrade my footage, or help it, if it’s on Blu-ray, and a hi-def tv?

    Thanks for the help!!

  • Ann Bens

    August 29, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    When you are mixing SD with HD the plugin will help you upscale SD to HD.
    Otherwise its of no use imo.
    I do not understand the issue you are having in Q1.
    What shows up op your tv?

    If you got a mic hanging cover it up with a track matte or do some cloning in AE.

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    Adobe Certified Expert Premiere Pro

  • Trevor Styles

    August 29, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    well, I have only ever worked with Mini-DV footage…and output to a 4:3 tv. In Adobe, there is the “Title safe area, and the Action safe area”. On a 4:3 tv, the action safe portion of the frame doesn’t show up on the tv. So if you have a mic barely in the frame, it never used to show up on a 4:3 tv. Now I am outputting to an HD TV…and the ENTIRE action safe area shows on the tv.

    So, I think I have a few options, and was just wondering what the best route to go is.

    #1. Use a letterboxed matte on the entire image, resulting in a letterboxed image, not “filling the whole frame ” of an HD TV.

    #2. Upscale the images that have the problem zones…thus only “upscaling and degrading a few images here and there. (the ones with the mic/mattebox flags in the “action-safe” zones)

    #3. Crop the image in Premiere, resulting in either a black box around the frame, or resulting in an upscaled image, which results in a lossy image.

    What is the best route to go?

  • Chris Tompkins

    August 29, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Action Safe and Title safe are there for you when desinging effects and grfx with regards to TV Broadcast and display.

    If you have unwanted junk in the shot, that should have been caught on set.

    You’ll need to zoom in on those shots until the unwanted goes off screen or matte it out as suggested.

    Resing up your SD to HD will degrade it far worse then squeezing it on a Single Layer DVD.

    120 minutes and less will go on a SD DVD just fine.

    Re-encode, lower your bit rate some, Keep doing it until you land around 4.2GB for the vid track, it’ll look fine.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Trevor Styles

    August 29, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Excellent–thank you everyone!!

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