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2 million new adobe PPro seats
Posted by Richard Cardonna on April 29, 2012 at 7:14 pmAindreas Gallagher replied 14 years ago 23 Members · 51 Replies -
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Oliver Peters
April 29, 2012 at 7:47 pmA comprehensive look at CS6:
https://tv.adobe.com/show/cs6-creative-cloud-feature-tour-for-video/
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Richard Cardonna
April 29, 2012 at 7:56 pmIt hurts you to know about the 2 million new users with a 45% increase in Mac so you change the subject. Ah some of these apple fanboys when will they see reality?
Ric
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Bill Davis
April 29, 2012 at 8:00 pmSo if a graphic designer buys the Master Suite to get inDesign, Dreamweaver, and Illustrator – since PPro comes along with the pack – is that a PPro “seat” from the companies point of view?”
This is part of my issue with the whole “bundling” approach to business. It’s clearly good for Adobe’s business model to make standalone purchases pretty expensive compared to the bundles – and it’s smart business to drive incremental sales by encouraging larger dollar value purchases. But how do you keep track of whether people are actually using a given product on a day to day basis when the bundled product may contain many discrete pieces that may or may not be relevant to the end user?
It kinda divorces “sales” from “use.” IMO.
I could be totally wrong and there certainly might be 2 million PPro users worldwide launching the program every day to make videos.
And if so, Adobe has every right to trumpet that fact.
But if they’re reached that much penetration, It hasn’t shown up in the circles I talk to. In fact, I haven’t talked to a single editor that’s basing their business editing on PPro.
That certainly doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of them. Just that I haven’t run across them.
Anyone else regularly getting significant work from PPro editors or get calls from clients wanting you to finish work in that program?
Just wondering.
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Richard Cardonna
April 29, 2012 at 8:10 pmI understand you point but if you to min. 2:30 on you will here him say specifically 2million seats of premiere .
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Neil Patience
April 29, 2012 at 8:14 pmHave to say Bill’s experience mirrors mine here in the UK – never in 20 years of freelance editing been asked to edit with PP, never seen a suite with it. Probably 70% Avid 30% FCP give or take.
I mostly work in broadcast, I believe Bill works in other areas – so you would think between us we might run into a couple of these 2,000,000Again not disputing it, just never seem to see any – they must be somewhere ?
best wishes
Neil
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Richard Cardonna
April 29, 2012 at 8:27 pmI don’t think that broadast at this moment and I mean top tier broadcast is Adobe core market yet but everything else is up for grabs.
I remember reading a Tim Wilson article here in the cow (can’t find it) where based on his experience premiere had maybe double of what FCP had (3 or four years ago me thinks) But not in the same markets.
I think that many of those copies are waitng for post houses to transition and learn. Adobe apps at this time are geared to boutique and inhouse faclities, Industrial,news org… I am shure that the way adobe is going it will get there.
How many of the said 2 million FCPX have you seen in top tier Broadcast?
Ric
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Jeremy Garchow
April 29, 2012 at 8:36 pmI wonder how many seats of Speedgrade.
I can’t wait for this: https://tv.adobe.com/watch/cs6-creative-cloud-feature-tour-for-video/adding-impact-to-your-footage-with-speedgrade-cs6/
Jeremy
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Lance Bachelder
April 29, 2012 at 8:38 pmCan’t wait til May 7. Now to decided whether to run Mac or PC?
Lance Bachelder
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Eric Santiago
April 29, 2012 at 8:41 pmwe own 10 seats of master and production…Ill fire up PPro maybe once in a month. Even though it works with R3D, Im too deep into the AMA with Avid and RCXPro to FCPX (using ProRes4444 4K) to care about PPro.
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Neil Patience
April 29, 2012 at 8:43 pm[Richard Cardonna] ”
How many of the said 2 million FCPX have you seen in top tier Broadcast?”None at all, I dont know anyone using FCPX in the broadcast world. To be fair FCP7 was and is in the minority. As I said earlier probably something like 70/30 Avid – FCP in London.
That said I have not done a single FCP freelance job this year at all. I just checked back and literally all Avid so far. I know of a couple of places that have retained FCP but added Avid so FCP is taking more of a back seat there.
I have no idea if my experience is indicative of any larger switch as yet as outside of that things seem to have stayed roughly as they were, but certainly in broadcast FCP’s loss has been Avids gain in the couple of intances where I have seen it happen.best wishes
Neil
http://www.patience.tv
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