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Oliver Peters
April 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm[Richard Cardonna]
How many of the said 2 million FCPX have you seen in top tier Broadcast?””That’s doesn’t seem to be a correct number. According to Philips Hodgetts’ blog he clarified that as more X seats than FCP 7 seats: “There are now more Final Cut Pro X installs than Final Cut Pro 7 installs.”
That would be quite a few less than 2 million (the number for all FCP/FCE/FCS – all versions – users since 1.0). In fact, I know plenty of facilities who didn’t go past FCP6, so it could well be that FCP 7 users actually total a smaller number than FCP 6 users. The bottom line – nowhere near 2 million X seats.
As far as X in the pro world – I’m in Florida and no one I know is moving to X in broadcast. A few post and prod folks are playing with it to test the waters, but that’s it.
Regarding PPro, Adobe has in the past bundled versions of Premiere with a lot of capture cards. More so in the pre-“Pro” days. As a result, there are a lot of Premiere and Premiere Pro seats in the corporate world. Also a lot of folks buy the Prod Prem bundle to get AE and Pshop, so own PPro by default. There’s no way for Adobe to know what they are actually using. In my market, the NBC affiliate is a Hearst station and they are one of the groups shifting to Premiere. I think it’s mainly for promotion and creative services with news on something else. That started before X. I believe our PBS station had been on Premiere in the past. Not sure now, but I remember onlining an HD special for them on DS that was offlined inhouse on Premiere 6.0.
According to the SCRI study for 2011 that Apple cites, they dropped market share by 3% and that all went to Avid and not Adobe. I suspect the number may be completely different this year, now that everyone has a clearer idea of direction, though I’m not sure who will actually see the strongest gains.
– Oliver
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 29, 2012 at 10:08 pm2 million and 2!
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Steve Connor
April 29, 2012 at 10:29 pm[Richard Cardonna] “It hurts you to know about the 2 million new users with a 45% increase in Mac so you change the subject.”
Why would it hurt?
Steve Connor
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David Lawrence
April 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “2 million and 2!”
2 million and 3! :p
And for anyone who wants to join the club, I found a fantastic deal online. Full retail license Production Premium Bundle 5.5 with free 6.0 upgrade for on $899 download or $999 box with no tax and free shipping. That’s up to $1000 off Adobe’s price. Mac or PC. My box arrives tomorrow:
https://www.deedshop.com/products/Adobe-Production-Premium-CS5.5-%252d-Full-Retail-%252d-MAC.html
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 29, 2012 at 10:51 pmI…. can actually beat that.
I’m getting the license transferred to me tomorrow on a design premium 5.0 that I got for 250 quid off a marketing business guy who’s been trying to offload it for six months on gumtree. I have the original invoice in my hands for it. miracle.
250 + 385 for the upgrade to production premium 5.5 before may 7th and bingo – I’m home with a free upgrade to 6.0, lovely new rather astonishingly good premiere that’s going to sprout like mushrooms everywhere over the next 12 months, and Speedgrade and alllll the other goodies.
then I grab Symphony before 15th june for 800 quid and that’s it – home and dry in time for supper.
yay. I say again – yay.
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Alan Okey
April 29, 2012 at 11:05 pmWhy are you posting this in the FCP X or Not forum? Do you hate FCP X?
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David Lawrence
April 29, 2012 at 11:09 pmSweet!!! 🙂
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Leo Hans
April 29, 2012 at 11:29 pmI haven’t seen any PPro seat in the pro market.
Everybody I know still works with MC or FCP, no one even tried PPro, and they seems more skeptical to PPro than to FCPX.Leo Hans
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Daniel Frome
April 30, 2012 at 12:05 amI’ve seen hints of the coming Ppro wave into TV.
Last month I was asked to edit my first TV half-hour in Premiere Pro. It was a bumpy ride which I posted about in the Ppro forum, ultimately converting to Avid before the final week of fine-cutting.
However, I remain convinced that Ppro “can do the job” for the most part. I think CS6 will be the first version that, if works as advertised, gives a legitimate choice against Avid. I don’t think it will unseat Avid as the market leader, but have some kind of a presence at least.
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Jeremy Garchow
April 30, 2012 at 12:06 amI would think if any outfits were going to switch from FCS3, they would wait for CS6 that has significant improvements, especially when it comes to video out and hopefully, tape and rs422 control.
Cs6 isn’t released yet, so it might not happen for a little while, yet.
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