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  • 1080 24PA in FCP 5.04

    Posted by Qtmedia on March 21, 2006 at 12:28 am

    Noah,

    I am testing the HVX200 for use on a currently shooting dramatic television series shot on F900’s. Can you give me a point by point workflow for aquiring 1080 24PA(23.98) footage and using FCP to get footage onto HDCAM in true 24PsF. How can I maximize the quality of the image and best match the F900 footage?

    So far:

    Shoot HVX P2 1080 24PA
    Transfer material via firewire to G5 as P2 MXF Data
    Import in FCP5.04
    Remove pulldown (how?)
    Playout from 24P timeline via HDSDI (Decklink) to HDCam Deck

    Thank you,

    QT

    Mike Schrengohst replied 20 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Mike Schrengohst

    March 21, 2006 at 2:31 am

    I have been working on this as well,
    Been experimenting with Raylight and After Effects.
    I found this on DVinfo and did it, it seems to work.

    “I think we have a solution. Adam Wilt was very helpful over on the SF Cutters mailing list and provided a useable process.

    He said that when you select the F1-only mode in CineTools’ Remove 2:3 Pulldown, it effectively does a 2:3:3:2 pulldown removal, not a 2:3 pulldown removal.”

    Leave all the other settings the same.

    “I tested it with footage from the HVX as well as test clips I made in After Effects. This method with CineTools correctly transfered both even and odd fields, despite being called F1-only. Just to be sure, I compared still frames from the original and the CineTools processed footage using a difference blending mode in Photoshop and they were identical for a set of A,B,C, and D frames from the 2:3:3:2 cadence. No evidence of recompression either.

    The one downside is that CineTools produces a file that the Finder shows to be 640×360, but both QT Player and FCP show to be
    1920×1080. It’s a minor annoyance.

    After Effects still treats the file produced by CineTools like it is really 640×360, which makes it unusable there due to pixelation when you scale it up. Fortunately AE’s Interpret Footage command does correctly remove 24pA pulldown, so the original 1080i24pA files from the HVX can be used in AE directly without having to use CineTools.”

    But AE only works in RGB Colorspace. So pulling your original 24PA clips into AE does not work, it produces a Gamma shift. So here is what do.

    1.) Shoot 1080 24pA clips on the HVX.
    2.) Copy your P2 contents for back-up.
    3.) Create a 1080 60i easy set-up in FCP.
    4.) Set sequence to render RGB.
    5.) Import your P2 content into the 1080 easy set-up.
    6.) Close FCP open Cinema Tools and do the conversion
    as described above with your clips. Save as new clips.
    7.) Open FCP with a 720 24p easy set-up
    8.) Change the sequence properties for 1080 clip.
    Leave the frame rate as 23.98 (Really 23.976)
    9.) Make sure your sequence render properties are set
    to RGB if you are going to use the exported
    file in After Effects. Do you own testing for
    best results.
    10.) Export a 23.976 QT file with QuickTime conversion.
    I use Photo-JPEG at 100% and then use this file in
    After Effects. You could use this file most
    anywhere as this is what most Stock Footage houses
    deliver HD clips on.
    11.) You could use this file in a 720p DVCPRO project
    also.

    Let me know if this works for you.

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