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Jeremy Garchow
October 23, 2012 at 10:37 pm[David Lawrence] “If a PIOP is set, it makes sense that that would be the marked range for key wording (or sub clipping in other NLEs). If you want the entire clip, either select all or unmark I and O. Seems normal to me. Am I missing something?”
You have to constantly unmark the range since there’s always a range there now.
If there’s multiple ranges, then there’s multiple parts of the clip that are keyworded.
I have to see how this plays out.
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Jeremy Garchow
October 23, 2012 at 10:43 pm[Sandeep Sajeev] “I can see this sucking. I get what Phillip meant now.”
I’ve said my peace about PIOPs in various other threads.
I am glad Apple has figured out a way for the rest of the people, I just hope it’s better. I thought the favorite system was pretty good if you got used to it.
You can easily and intentionally store ranges with favorites (I don’t want to get in to another war) but this seems like you will no have to navigate both PIOPs AND favorites.
Seems kind of unnecessary, but need to get some time in the seat to test it out!
Jeremy
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Oliver Peters
October 23, 2012 at 10:48 pmI don’t get the complaints you guys and Philip are tossing out regarding PIOP. These work exactly the way they always have in “legacy” and in every other NLE. It simply holds the last in/out points. If you have a range-based Favorite and other in/outs, it holds the Favorite as a “subclip” plus the last in/out that was marked. There’s no need to clear anything out. Simply leave it there as it’s not hurting anything.
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Brad Bussé
October 23, 2012 at 10:53 pmFrom Apple’s what’s new, under the headline Optimized for MacBook Pro with Retina Display:
“Smoothly edit multicam projects with up to nine streams of 1080p ProRes 422 (HQ) content or up to four streams of 1080p uncompressed 8-bit video, right from your internal flash storage.”Really? How many of you out there are planning on working with projects running 9 streams of 1080p ProRes 422 (HQ) on a half terabyte of storage shared with the boot drive?
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Jeremy Garchow
October 23, 2012 at 10:54 pm[Oliver Peters] “These work exactly the way they always have in “legacy” and in every other NLE. It simply holds the last in/out points. “
Or as many as you want in a clip, not just the last one. It does work differently than legacy if you want it to.
[Oliver Peters] “I don’t get the complaints you guys and Philip are tossing out regarding PIOP.”
I didn’t understand how people couldn’t get used to favorites, so….we’re even?
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Jeremy
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David Lawrence
October 23, 2012 at 10:54 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “You have to constantly unmark the range since there’s always a range there now.
If there’s multiple ranges, then there’s multiple parts of the clip that are keyworded.
I have to see how this plays out.”
Doesn’t Command-A take care of everything?
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Sandeep Sajeev
October 23, 2012 at 10:58 pmYeah the PIOP’s thing has been done to death. As you say, spend enough time on anything and it will eventually become second nature.
I’m annoyed now that I have to wait until I finish the current project I’m working on before I can download and try out all this new stuff!
Jeremy, can you confirm that there’s no source time code in the event viewer? What happens when you turn on clip info?
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Jeremy Garchow
October 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm[David Lawrence] “Doesn’t Command-A take care of everything?”
Unless you forget to command all before you start keywording.
Just like if you forgot to favorite before.
What I don’t know is if you select a bunch of clips in the Event, what range is selected?
Walter S is right, it’s the exact inverse of the favorite situation.
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David Lawrence
October 23, 2012 at 11:11 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Unless you forget to command all before you start keywording.
Just like if you forgot to favorite before.
What I don’t know is if you select a bunch of clips in the Event, what range is selected?
Walter S is right, it’s the exact inverse of the favorite situation.”
Guess I’m in the same camp as Oliver, just don’t get what the big deal is. This is totally standard UI behavior for NLEs. If PIOPs were in the 10.0.0 release, I don’t think anyone would be complaining now.
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