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Two MultiCam questions
Hi,
I’m using Vegas 6 and Excalibur.This is an hour long wedding with 3 cameras. There are gaps in the videos of some cameras. The audio is better in some tracks than others … ie want to use track 1 video with track 2’s audio in one spot.
1. I want to start off with track 2’s video, then go to track 1 … but there is a multi second gap before track 1 even starts, so at my start point the PIP shows only tracks 2 and 3, with black for track 1 because it’s further down the timeline. How do I do that?
2. In a section of track 2 where I want to use the video, track 1’s audio is better … so I want to use track 1’s audio with track 2’s video. What do I do?
Thank you for your help,
Margie
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23 Replies
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[Margie] “1. I want to start off with track 2’s video, then go to track 1 … but there is a multi second gap before track 1 even starts, so at my start point the PIP shows only tracks 2 and 3, with black for track 1 because it’s further down the timeline. How do I do that?”
At the beginning of the timeline, use the “Camera 2” button. Wait until you see video on track 1 before using the “Camera 1” button.
[Margie] “2. In a section of track 2 where I want to use the video, track 1’s audio is better … so I want to use track 1’s audio with track 2’s video. What do I do?”
Audio is totally separate. Just use Multi-cam to get the desired camera angles. Then add volume envelopes to all audio tracks and adjust your audio as desired picking the best audio from all available tracks. There’s no problem using ANY audio with the master video track.
Edward Troxel
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Hi Edward,
Thank you for your response. The gap is more like about 4 minutes. I want to start video in track 2 and use about 1 minute or so, then go to track 1, which is about 4 minutes later down the timeline. If I choose camera 1 where the camera 1 starts, I get all the 4 minutes of track 2 that I don’t want to use. Don’t know if there’s something I need to do to get rid of the chunk of track 2 in between that I don’t want??
Thanks,
Margie -
So basically you’re saying there’s something like a 3 minute chunk of the timeline you really wish to REMOVE. Just create a selection area around the section to remove, press Delete, and the CTRL-SHIFT-F (assuming auto ripple is turned off.
Edward Troxel
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Thanks, will try. Must get to regular work.
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Margie,
One thing you might do in the future, especially for a wedding video (since the ceremony is usually less than an hour)…once you start the cameras recording…leave all of them in record mode, do not stop any of the cameras even if you’re walking up an isle with the camera pointed at the floor. Then once you capture your tapes, you can sync them up once and they will be synced throughout the entire ceremony. Makes editing much easier in my opinion. -
Thank you Edward,
Yes, there’s a three or four minute chunk that I want to get rid of. There are probably a few more and in the middle of this project. With all the great tools that you and Gary have provided in Excalibur perhaps I need to underestand what a proper work flow should be. With this little 3 cam wedding (per lesson video .. mention was made of 17 inputs! or so.. at this point I would be stark raving mad), started off doing sync. Now think I should have done extract good clips first .. then sync .. with more experience, don’t know how many things I’ll think I should have done first before doing sync. Spent hours trying to adjust sync points before finding out via help index that I could move an event frame by frame left or right using 1 and 3 on the number pad, then two other numbers to move events by pixel … and that’s due to my still learning Vegas. At least I’ve learned some more stuff so what took me hours before can be minutes now. I repaired the piece that I complained about in the video yuck question per your advice with a piece of the better take. Doing some things are scary to do until you do them enough that there’s a comfort level that you aren’t going to destroy what you’re working on. Ex .. opened one of my last edits on this and all tracks grayed out! Just went back to the prior. Then tried to start fresh with chopping all the beginning and ending garbage that was loading up the timeline.
Margie
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Thank you Ted,
So then if you have 3 cameras worth of one plus hour where you have sections of garbage in the assorted middles of all of them .. how do you jump from one to the other spanning the sections that you don’t want? Now I’m thinking in mine perhaps my problem is that all three weren’t started at the same time. The body of all are the same, but not the beginning and end. One has preview shots of the church, etc. Then starts as guests are coming in. Maybe I need to separate the unrelated events rather than have them grouped together as a single event on the timeline.
Margie
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Margie, I agree with Ted. On a multi-cam shoot – start them all at the beginning and just let them run. Here’s how I would do it:
Capture each camera.
Load each camera on the timeline, labeled properly, and then SYNC them. You now have the sync’d PIP view.Now I would go through the timeline and delete the “dead” sections making sure that ALL tracks close the gaps created properly. You will now have a shortened timeline that has all the dead sections removed and you only had to sync ONCE!
Now use Multi-cam to edit the “good stuff”. Make sure you put a camera switch at the point where you cut out each “dead” piece as you’ll probably want to change cameras at that point.
It’s MUCH easier to sync once and delete than to sync 30 times!
Edward Troxel
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Thank you Edward,
I’m just worried that .. working on the three tracks, say I remove five min from one 15 min from a second and 30 minutes from the third from areas within and without… won’t that throw off my sync big time!!??
Margie
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Forgot do I have the post edit ripple mode turned on .. must or there would be holes all over the place. How about the group mode. Then worried about chopping a music piece off when I get rid of the dead video. Shhesssh. Don’t understand how not to worry about the audio just the video.
Thanks,
Margie
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