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Getting 50Mbps from Canon xf305 into FCP ( How? )
Hi I have had a headache with the MXF files from Canons XF 305, I have now managed firstly with XDCAM and now Via Canon Utility Backup of Media.
However I am having great trouble getting 50Mbps when I know this was what the footage was shot in, the best so far Through 422 HQ, I have tried all options ie Native etc etc….If anybody can help I would appreciate your input as Avid can manage the MXF with no problems at this data rate, but I need it for Broadcast via Final Cut Pro 7.0.3
I really have tried many many tests, what could be the issue?
Many thanks in advance, Ritch.. -
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[richard emerson] “Hi I have had a headache with the MXF files from Canons XF 305, I have now managed firstly with XDCAM and now Via Canon Utility Backup of Media.
However I am having great trouble getting 50Mbps when I know this was what the footage was shot in, the best so far Through 422 HQ, I have tried all options ie Native etc etc….If anybody can help I would appreciate your input as Avid can manage the MXF with no problems at this data rate, but I need it for Broadcast via Final Cut Pro 7.0.3
I really have tried many many tests, what could be the issue?
Many thanks in advance, Ritch..
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Read this:
https://library.creativecow.net/ross_shane/tapeless-workflow_fcp-7/1 -
Thanks for reply I am watching the Link and I will hopefully manage to Find How To Achieve and keep the Data Rate, so far 22Mbps is the best I have achieved but it must be the 4:2:2 50Mbps for HD Broadcast…
I am fortunate thus far that Sony XDCAM has aided me with MXF transfer for DVD, but I really need to achieve the Broadcast Standards required.
I have the Necessary Canon Utility and the Driver Support for Final Cut Pro 7.0.3 but have to admit this process has been anything than straight forward..
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Richard,
I don’t work with Canon stuff, but with EX-1 and NANO (XDCAM-50/280Mbps).
When you use any of those plugins for L&T XDCAM stuff, the only thing that happens is that the
MXF or MP4 from the cards or disks, get “re-wrapped” as QT files.
There is no transcoding, no change of data rate, size,..nothing.
The Audio/Video info is just repacked keeping the whole original information.
For the data-rate you are getting, smells like a proxy or so.
rafael
BTW: Make sure you are using the correct Canon software. There are similar plugins for L&T of DSLRs and AVCHD camcorders that may differ. -
Thank-you for your Info, I have checked and re checked that I have the Correct Plug-Ins for Final Cut from Canons website. The best I have achieved still is 22Mbps and the Clips are Definitely with no doubt shot at 50Mbps….
You mention Proxy, If I understand correctly this is for Editing at a lower quality and corrected as it were later..
Do you have anymore pointers where I might get some help with my current problems please, I understand you are very busy and appreciate the input so far..
All the best Ritch…..
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Hi Richard,
I’m wondering whether you solved this problem of getting 50mbps in FCP7 and any other MXF issues.I’m currently researching the Canon XF305 and am keen to buy one (for use in a FCP7 suite), I’d love to hear your thoughts on it.
Rod
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Hi Rodney, I have had some good results with the Canon XF 305 infact I am just back from a shoot where we used 8 of them in a sports capacity where we used the Hd/sdi out for live vision mixing on site to a variety of Giant techno rainbow outdoor screens and also Hospitality monitors..
With regards to the MXF Files and Final cut apparently the 22mbps data rate is different to the 50Mbps I first started the Thread about, indeed the footage on export from FCP7 is 50Mbps etc…
Now the only downside to xf305 is having to use Canons Utility for back up of the the CF Card MXF format, as if then you want to search and copy a particular collection of clips or footage it has to then come back into Canons Utility and copied or moved via it’s Virtual Media back-up process ( this is not so in Avid or Premier Pro ) So in short if files are copied or re named, moved etc it must be through the Canon Utility.
This is the only negative on the Camera as we do a great deal of copying/backing up of clips/files/footage for multiple editors as the Sport has many positions on it’s course and is over 3 days, so each Rider needs to be compiled into a numbered folder so we can access all the footage pertaining to he or she for the edit..
The XF Quality and Versatility is very very good and the footage is of super Quality the 3sec buffer is also useful as is the Gen Lock etc etc and it is worth it’s price for what features it contains regarding the Broadcast requirements these days.. Whether for Progressive or Interlaced Spec requirements or the whole Data Rate range. The ability to quickly look at what the last clip contained whilst shooting is great, the new update means it can shoot 2 cards simultaneously.
The Camera is usable in a very straight forward set up either in Auto or semi auto, so is the whole Manual set up side…
I think it is for it’s price a great bit of kit, like wise the xf 300 & so is the 105 for that matter, also the Sony Ex is a good camera too.
I will give it a 8.75 out of 10… This is only not 10/10 due to the Utility Software issues mentioned above..
If you do have any specific questions I am happy to help, all the best and thanks for the Interest…. Ritch.
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[richard emerson] “The best I have achieved still is 22Mbps and the Clips are Definitely with no doubt shot at 50Mbps….”
Then, what you are getting is the Proxy.
Do a search on the XDCAM forum
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Hey Ritch,
Thanks for taking the time to write such a comprehensive message, much appreciated and helped me in my decision. Have ordered the camera and hoping it comes in tomorrow!
Rod -
Great I hope you like it and did you indeed go with the XF from Canon ??
If so any help you need give me a shout…1 bit of advice go on their website for the Updates for the Utility Program and also Final Cut Updated Plug In also their is a Firmware update for the Camera itself, this is only for being able to get the Camera to Shoot to 2 CF Cards at the same time so you have 2 cards with the same footage etc, although after we spoke to Canon about Final Cut and their Media Back up Utility 2 days later a new update appeared which related to our enquiry..
We use LOG N TRANSFER but if you move or rename footage do it through the Canon Utility if not you can use Sony XDCAM Transfer but this isn’t ideal as sound issues etc…
The Slo-Mo that the Camera can Shoot In, with frame rate, Fps, Shutter Speed etc is absolutely brilliant with Superb results so far…
Let me know how you get on please..
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How did you solve it. Having the same problem.
/Jonatan
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