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Weak FCS3 performance after installing new internal HDD
Hey everyone.
I recently installed a Seagate 7200rpm 750GB HDD in my late 2007 white MacBook (2.2 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM) because my stock HDD was on the way out.
Since then, in FCS I can’t even playback 1280×720 23.98 ProRes 422 material without FCP aborting playback with that “System too slow” warning, and prior to the upgrade I could edit 1080p h.264 no problem.
I trashed my FCP preferences thinking maybe a setting was changed somewhere “along the surface”, but perhaps it’s more deeply routed than that. I have the sequence on Safe RT, I dumbed down all the playback settings for frame rate and quality, etc.
Anybody have any insight on what has happened?
Thanks.
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H.264 is NOT an editing codec. You will experience probs. This is mentioned daily here. Yes, I know you had NO problems b/4 with it.
Convert your footage to a codec/format FCP plays nice with. If then, you still have probs then it’s probably that new HD install. But try a mov file ProRes.
Chris Tompkins
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“Since then, in FCS I can’t even playback 1280×720 23.98 ProRes 422 material without FCP aborting playback “.
Thanks.
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You need to be using an external hard drive for playback of your ProRes media. Can’t count on an internal to run the app, OS, QuickTime and read your files as well as play the video. A fast FW 800 drive should do the trick.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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My MacBook doesn’t support FW800.
I’m looking for a solution to fix my problem or tell me what the problem is. I don’t want to edit off an external, otherwise I would already be doing so and this thread wouldnt exist.
I’d really like to find out why my system isn’t running like it used to, which could easily edit Full HD ProRes media, including 4444, on the stock internal HDD which was a 5400rpm 120GB.
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You were lucky before? It’s not recommended by anybody anywhere to run your media files from your startup disk.
Jerry
Apple Certified Trainer, Producer, Writer, Director Editor, Gun for Hire and other things. I ski. My Blog: https://blogs.creativecow.net/Jerry-Hofmann
Current DVD:
https://store.creativecow.net/p/81/jerry_hofmanns_final_cut_system_setup8-Core 3.0 Intel Mac Pro, Dual 2 gig G5, AJA Kona SD, AJA Kona 2, Huge Systems Array UL3D, AJA Io HD, 17″ MBP, Matrox MXO2 with MAX – Cinema Displays I have a 22″ that I paid 4k for still working. G4 with Kona SD card, and SCSI card.
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Editing h264 material is less work for the HDD compared to using ProRes. (But a lot more work for the processor.)
How did you perform the disk swap? Did you do a fresh install of the entire system or just clone the old drive?
What kind of results do get if you try using something like AJA’s speed test?
And maybe you had the dropped frame warning disabled before and therefore didn’t notice if the computer was struggling a bit.
Stephan
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Questions like these are very tough. For the people trying to help you, they are giving you answers you don’t want to hear. You just want it to work because it worked before.
Heres some more stuff you wont want you hear, but we are not trying to lead you astray. Mr. Hoffman is exactly right, your boot drive is your boot drive, and that’s how it should be. The system you are using is barely qualified. Part of running an NLE is having enough storage. A MacBook with no connectivity isn’t the best solution out there, perhaps you should think about an upgrade so that you can connect with external storage.
If that is not an option, consider removing your DVD burner to an external case and putting another hard drive internally. These guys do it:
https://www.mcetech.com/optibay/
If that is not an option because, let me guess, spending exactly zero dollars is what you want to do, I would ask how exactly you upgraded your drive?
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I find it hard to believe that prior to the HDD upgrade I simply got “lucky”. I was exporting 4K 10-bit DPX sequences from REDCINE-X after doing a one-light, then exporting that sequence out Shake as ProRes 4444 QTs and then cutting in 4444 and doing a CC in Color.
My process: TimeMachine backed up the original internal HDD to Lacie. Mounted the new internal HDD, ran the OS X Snow Leopard install DVD, then restored the new HDD from the TimeMachined back-up on the Lacie. Ran Permission Repair.
You guys are right when you say I’m looking for a cost-free solution. But I am doing so because I installed the new HDD to replace the old one and hope for a bit better performance with reading and writing files. I’ve heard of the DVD-drive swap-out process, I just didn’t think it was possible on a MacBook.
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[Ryan Knight] “I find it hard to believe”
Start believing… Everyone has given you the proper advice.
[Ryan Knight] “My process: TimeMachine backed up the original internal HDD to Lacie.”
Another mistake… You should have cloned your system drive. Time Machine backup of the Pro Apps applications does not restore properly. So, you’re never going to get things straight without reinstalling from the original FCP disks or cloning from the hard drive you earlier replaced.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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[Ryan Knight] “I was exporting 4K 10-bit DPX sequences from REDCINE-X after doing a one-light, then exporting that sequence out Shake as ProRes 4444 QTs and then cutting in 4444 and doing a CC in Color.”
That seems nearly impossible with your configuration.
I’m sure apple would love to examine your system.
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