Weak FCS3 performance after installing new internal HDD

[Rafael Amador]

Start by checking if is a HD issue.
Run the AJA System Test and see the Read/Write performance.
rafael

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[Jeremy Garchow]

Ryan-

First off, your install process is all wrong and that’s causing your issues. You should have simply cloned your old drive to the new one. Time Machine is not a good way to install a system for a “professional”.
The best way is to stat from scratch new OS install, new application install, the whole 9.

Second, if you are really truly working at these resolutions and frame rates, a single 7200RPM drive is not going to do anything. Nothing. To speed up this workflow. Not until you dump the white macbook. Better read and write time? Come on dude. If you are really truly working at these resolutions and frame rates you are going to need an honest to goodness computer. A brand new 4 core laptop at the very very (very) least, and a low-end desktop at the very middle of the road, and then the fastest desktop on your way to the higher road in desktop/FCP editing. After that you will need an honest to goodness raid and a Rocket.

I know you’re not doing full projects at 4k. You are probably taking a few R3d files you have managed to pilfer and trying to come up with a decent workflow on your own time on your own computer. That’s cool, gotta test somehow, I use a laptop for that all the time. But since you are coming from a 120GB hard drive, there is absolutely positively no way you are doing this all the time. After you applications, your iPhoto collection and stolen music in your iTunes library, I’d say you probably have about 60GB (or less) left on your hard drive. Considering it takes 120GBs just to turn on a Red camera (I say that half jokingly) and rendering DPX files and ProRes4x4, you will run through 60GBs with a few minutes of raw footage or less. A few more spins of the platter is not going to help with your 4k DPX renders, or your 4k Shake renders, or your 4k ProRes renders. More processors will, however.

Now, go spend some money and get to work. Since you don’t want to spend any money, at least learn to install an operating system correctly. Then work on your white macbook and suffer through the long renders. It will do you some good.

Jeremy

[Ryan Knight]

So, mount the new HDD, install SL from the DVD and the install Pro Apps frOm the discs and then clone the drives to restore my files?

I thought TimeMachine was the cloning process. What is the cloning process?

Correct, I was working with the r3d’s > DPXs for very small clips and very particular in/out points. However, obviously I’ll be cutting 1080 ProRes material on the reg.

[David Roth weiss]

[Ryan Knight] “So, mount the new HDD, install SL from the DVD and the install Pro Apps frOm the discs and then clone the drives to restore my files?”

Nope! Either clone or install from the ground up, not both.

Cloning uses SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner to create a bootable clone of your system drive to a new drive or partition. Way different from Time Machine, which is just an automated backup.

The rule of thumb when moving to a larger system drive is: if your smaller system drive was running perfectly, you clone. If it was anything but perfect, you reinstall from scratch.

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[Rafael Amador]

[Ryan Knight] “I thought TimeMachine was the cloning process. What is the cloning process?”
TimeMachine is very different.
The purpose of TimeMachine is to recover former system configurations, so must keeps many things that may not be in your system HD anymore. TimeMachine works by coping fiiles and folder. The info is organized by the TimeMachine controller.
Cloning works very different. The info is copied as is lied in the disk without regard if that is belong to any kind of file. You just transfer bit by bit and you get a copy of the original by by bit.
Rafael

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[Ryan Knight]

Is there a way for me to do this now? Starting again from the original internal HDD?

And then manually copy over some newer files/docs from the upgraded HDD after a successful clone.

[Ryan Knight]

Is there a way for me to do this now? Starting again from the original internal HDD?

And then manually copy over some newer files/docs from the upgraded HDD after a successful clone.

[Jeremy Garchow]

Nope. Not unless you had a third drive to temporarily store the newest files.

[Ryan Knight]

I have tons of drives, for my laptop and desktop.

So if I copy my newest files from the upgraded internal HDD to an external drive, I can treat my upgraded internal as if there is nothing on it (because I stil have the original, and a drive enclosure).

How can I do the cloning process now then? Remount the original internal HDD to start the cloning process to the upgraded internal HDD?

[Jeremy Garchow]

I am sure there’s a manual that comes with whatever cloning software you chose to use, but basically you boot from your 120GB drive and clone to your new drive.