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What the Xserve EOL means to us…
Looks like we are moving to Dell Servers, Dell or EMC RAIDS, Windows 7 and around 20
i7 workstations running CS5 and most importantly Avid or Premiere in place of Final Cut.I hate the idea of it.
At one time I believed in Apple. Not anymore.
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Ah com’on… XServes loss isn’t that big a deal is it? What’s the problem with using towers instead?
Jerry
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Why do you have to move to windows because there is no xserve? There are still Mac server options, like the new MacPro Server.
**Hindsight is always 1080p**
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(sarcasm on) Ah com’on…. who needs LOM? Redundant power? Form Factor?
There is no way to sugar coat this or believe that a MacPro is all you need.
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[Jerry Hofmann] “XServes loss isn’t that big a deal is it? What’s the problem with using towers instead?”
Agreed. I for one would prefer a tower based server. Towers computers cool batter then rack mount computers. And staying cool is KEY when you want fast processors.
**Hindsight is always 1080p**
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{{hand slaps face}}
… never mind.
As I said in an earlier post…
EOL Shake
EOL XRaid
Pro Apps stagnation
EOL Xserve
No future path
No informationIt’s over folks.
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Will has it right. This is bad news for FCP users. It portends the end of OS X Server, Xsan, and FCP. We have 50+ Xserves… we’re screwed.
I have long hoped that Apple would certify a few PC servers to run OS X Server. The lack of this companion accouncment ala Promise, and the MacPro Migration guide, pretty much puts a stake into that.
I predict someone is designing a MacPro to 1 RU enclosure kit with dual power supplies as I type.
John Heagy
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If there’s a market, there’s a solution from somebody, and Apple will be supporting it just as they have in the past (not forever, but long enough)….
You REALLY want to go to a new platform? There’s a lot more headache in that than what’s on the surface. Just the fact that there are 10 FCP users for every Adobe user should give you pause. Think of the lack of employees that there will be right now. 50% of the market is FCP. 23% is Avid, and the rest is the rest… Adobe, Vegas et all.
Redundant power is an issue, but I’m thinking there will be a solution if there’s a market. Space? Well you gotta be kidding here. Side by side is possible, and is what I see when people are using towers. (heat is up and back too… probably cooler to boot.
That said, I’ve never lost a power supply in 23 years of NLE work.
I respect you, and wouldn’t want to be steering you wrong. But every indication out there is that Apple has no intention of selling FCP, and further, FCS is in the midst of the biggest change in it’s history. Give it time before you jump is what I’m saying.
Jerry
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You guts should check out Grande Vitess in San Fran.
They’ve been racking OSX for as long as I can remember.
Have you even worked with CS5 day in and day out, Will?
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[Jerry Hofmann] “Space? Well you gotta be kidding here. Side by side is possible”
I work in a 200,000sq/ft facility and space is an issue. Data centers are only so big and expensive… racks, cooling, computer flooring, etc.
Example: We have a six Xserve Episode cluster that occupies a mere 10.5″ of rack space. It’s all MacPro equivalent would consume the entire rack.
So no… we are not kidding.
John
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Jeremy.. I don’t want to use CS5, but Apple is forcing our hand here.
I don’t have room for a rack full of MacPros and Apple may EOL Final Cut Server soon
for all we know.I think I can horde a bunch of Xserve parts and run Final Cut Server for a few years
without problem since it works OK with most non-Apple apps… but I can not spend
any more money on a DYING Final Cut suite that may be consumer garbage by NAB11.That means our planned refresh of systems will be PC because if Apple continues on the
consumer path then I won’t support it anymore. Our IT department can deal with it.
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